Pufferfish1 Clutched June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 they just following uncle ming yi. he a modern monk, need to live in modern times. so they modern preacher must live in orchard area so that can get to church faster β‘ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apvman 2nd Gear June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 Nobody ask those folks to downgrade in order to donate to church....they did it willing...nobody force them to....if u r able to convince gullible folks to do that for u, by all means, Β but at the end of the day, does ur conscience prick you? assuming there is one to start w. Β Are you one of those who tried to physco folks into downgrading their flats in order to get benefits for yourself? Β but at the end of the day, does ur conscience prick you? Β Hahaha...wait... do u have one to start with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretan 4th Gear June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 sorry to disappoint u bro, I am not one with such ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billyone Neutral Newbie June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 if you guys are so smart as to think you are right about Jesus is rich is wrong Β are you guys calling those who believe that Jesus is right wrong Β in the end who is right and who is wrong Β until we can get a solid provide eg there is water on Mars or find some living on Mars then can we be 100% sure that Mars did at one time support life Β Β remember history we use to think the world was flat scientist who think otherwise were killed only not too long ago did science prove that the world is indeed round the funny thing is non of the persecuted were ever brought to justice Β choose what you want to believe BUT you should also remember that you alone bear the consequences for better or worse Β Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 if you guys are so smart as to think you are right about Jesus is rich is wrong Β are you guys calling those who believe that Jesus is right wrong Β in the end who is right and who is wrong Β until we can get a solid provide eg there is water on Mars or find some living on Mars then can we be 100% sure that Mars did at one time support life Β Β remember history we use to think the world was flat scientist who think otherwise were killed only not too long ago did science prove that the world is indeed round the funny thing is non of the persecuted were ever brought to justice Β choose what you want to believe BUT you should also remember that you alone bear the consequences for better or worse wah.. your sentence very hard to read. so what are you saying? right or wrong. repharse can?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca 1st Gear June 28, 2010 Share June 28, 2010 (edited) wah.. your sentence very hard to read. so what are you saying? right or wrong. repharse can?? Β Hah. I thought I was the only one. It's like a bunch of random, semi-intelligent-sounding phrases hammered together. Β Add on: And, dude. PUNCTUATION. Edited June 28, 2010 by Chewbacca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Its about time some mainstream pastor stood up to speak on behalf of the faith. I was wondering when they would finally start damage control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ky13 Clutched June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Its about time some mainstream pastor stood up to speak on behalf of the faith. I was wondering when they would finally start damage control. lol Β no offence but from my observation, most of the mainstream pastors here are almost as rich as pastor kong. That's why it's better for them to keep their mouths shut. Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonWhite 1st Gear June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Yeah! I hope there will be others to correct the twisted messages from CHC... I respect this guy too. Β Unfortnuately, such churches do not flourish for a very simple reason.. No doubt, they are traditional (which they should) but they are not popular with the mass who prefer to go to a hip place like CHC and NCC ie.. Β Imagine one day for those who are Buddhist ie and go to a particular temple and found out that the monks there have form a rock band for chanting.. Well, isn't this what we're seeing in the mordern Churches nowadays.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Unfortnuately, such churches do not flourish for a very simple reason.. No doubt, they are traditional (which they should) but they are not popular with the mass who prefer to go to a hip place like CHC and NCC ie.. Β Imagine one day for those who are Buddhist ie and go to a particular temple and found out that the monks there have form a rock band for chanting.. Well, isn't this what we're seeing in the mordern Churches nowadays.. Β Whether a church flourishes is not measured by the number of followers, but by the depth of their relationship with God. I truly believe that God will be much happier with a group of 30 devoted followers rather than 30,000 thrill-seeking money-minded pastor-worshiping church-goers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Whether a church flourishes is not measured by the number of followers, but by the depth of their relationship with God. I truly believe that God will be much happier with a group of 30 devoted followers rather than 30,000 thrill-seeking money-minded pastor-worshiping church-goers. true... Its not the quantity that counts but the eventually quality of believers. Β I also don't object to the way mega churches worship service with Banners, Flags, Strobe lights, loud music and rock genre... as long as the heart is contrite. But frankly for me such loud music just distracts me more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 true... Its not the quantity that counts but the eventually quality of believers. Β I also don't object to the way mega churches worship service with Banners, Flags, Strobe lights, loud music and rock genre... as long as the heart is contrite. But frankly for me such loud music just distracts me more. Β Β that is why different church different stlye mah. You give the hymms to the youngster, they will cannot concentrate too most important thing is that they are worshipping God with the songs and not worshipping the style of song can already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca 1st Gear June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Whether a church flourishes is not measured by the number of followers, but by the depth of their relationship with God. I truly believe that God will be much happier with a group of 30 devoted followers rather than 30,000 thrill-seeking money-minded pastor-worshiping church-goers. Β Well said, mein freunde. Β *Mein fruend == my boy friend or my friend? Hrmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Unfortnuately, such churches do not flourish for a very simple reason.. No doubt, they are traditional (which they should) but they are not popular with the mass who prefer to go to a hip place like CHC and NCC ie.. Β Imagine one day for those who are Buddhist ie and go to a particular temple and found out that the monks there have form a rock band for chanting.. Well, isn't this what we're seeing in the mordern Churches nowadays.. So the youngsters now likes foam party. The church should follow the trend by organizing form party to worship God? This will flourish the church? Siow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 So the youngsters now likes foam party. The church should follow the trend by organizing form party to worship God? This will flourish the church? Siow Β Teach me how to worship God with Foam party??? I want to learn from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyt 4th Gear June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 that is why different church different stlye mah. You give the hymms to the youngster, they will cannot concentrate too most important thing is that they are worshipping God with the songs and not worshipping the style of song can already. Β probably this grp of youngsters are not really into christianity yet. if u need to do something to attract them, its like these ppl r not 'willing' touched by God to put their faith in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 (edited) probably this grp of youngsters are not really into christianity yet. if u need to do something to attract them, its like these ppl r not 'willing' touched by God to put their faith in the first place. Β Β Actually those i refering to are really into christianity. not your average joe youth who join for the wrong reason. Some of them have the capability to lead a small bible study group and their understanding of the words are pretty good for their age. We must always remember that youth and adult function and react to different things. Β when they grow older, they will learn to appriate the slower song and slowly edge out of the hippy song style of worship. Edited June 29, 2010 by Joseph22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator June 29, 2010 Share June 29, 2010 Teach me how to worship God with Foam party??? I want to learn from you. Β Β blindfold [laugh] just kidding ... β‘ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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