Electric cars

[oleoleole]

I went for 2nd Juniper test drive last wk, this time with my wife. She rejected Sealion 7 and Atto 3. She gave approval to change, but current E-class stil got 1.5yrs to go. Hopefully COE come down a little bit by then... 

[13177]

On 7/27/2025 at 9:18 AM, Theoldjaffa said:

It’s liquidmetal. Looks stunning under the sun.

So far only see white and grey on Tesla car. No see what silver at all le.

[ER-3682]

@oleoleole I don't COE will come down much in 1.5 Years Time.

[mersaylee]

On 7/27/2025 at 12:52 PM, ER-3682 said:

@oleoleole I don't COE will come down much in 1.5 Years Time.

2 years leh? My 8yo car is asking...😂

[Mkl22]

On 7/27/2025 at 12:52 PM, ER-3682 said:

@oleoleole I don't COE will come down much in 1.5 Years Time.

For sure will come below 100k by 2027. 

[Daniu82]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:18 PM, Mkl22 said:

For sure will come below 100k by 2027. 

Hope what you say will come true. My COE until 2029. Must change to at least hybrid by then. 

[mersaylee]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:22 PM, Daniu82 said:

Hope what you say will come true. My COE until 2029. Must change to at least hybrid by then. 

👋😁...

[inlinesix]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:22 PM, Daniu82 said:

Hope what you say will come true. My COE until 2029. Must change to at least hybrid by then. 

Last year of pure ICE

[D3badge]

On 7/27/2025 at 9:45 AM, oleoleole said:

I went for 2nd Juniper test drive last wk, this time with my wife. She rejected Sealion 7 and Atto 3. She gave approval to change, but current E-class stil got 1.5yrs to go. Hopefully COE come down a little bit by then... 

currently E class 1.5 years to go, but current $40k grant from government left 5 months to go 😎

[Rskc]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:18 PM, Mkl22 said:

For sure will come below 100k by 2027. 

Many including me thought election year, coe would drop but it didnt. 😅 The bountiful supply from last year till 2029 seems already used under the cut and fill method to prevent current coe to go to 120k, 150k. I think coe will hover over this level of 100k, 120k over next few years. Supply may also be affected by pp who may decide to renew coe. At least of 1 of my friend is already planning to do so when his car reaches 10 next year.

[Rskc]

On 7/27/2025 at 3:05 PM, D3badge said:

currently E class 1.5 years to go, but current $40k grant from government left 5 months to go 😎

I wonder if govt will extend again. 😄

[Bigtoothpick]

On 7/27/2025 at 8:20 PM, Rskc said:

Many including me thought election year, coe would drop but it didnt. 😅 The bountiful supply from last year till 2029 seems already used under the cut and fill method to prevent current coe to go to 120k, 150k. I think coe will hover over this level of 100k, 120k over next few years. Supply may also be affected by pp who may decide to renew coe. At least of 1 of my friend is already planning to do so when his car reaches 10 next year.

Tend to agree with your expectation on COE prices in next few years.  Anecdotally, seems that more and more people are choosing to renew COE. Wonder what the cut-and-fill quota increase assumption is about scrap rate of 10-yr old cars.

If the assumption is off, potentially we might have even less COE down the road cos many more cars had COE renewed!

 

[Tohto]

I had created a discussion on EV tyres, share your comments here. 

 

 

 

[Kopites]

One of it kind test for self drive capability of 36 cars of various model and brand. 

Search 懂车帝 on youtube you will see many comments.

Smart for the tester. He won't get sue by a single brand, like previous case xiaomi. Now there are 36 cars of various brand and model. 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kopites

[inlinesix]

@Kopites Someone posted in previous page

[RadX]

On 7/27/2025 at 9:18 AM, Theoldjaffa said:

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Better not cos will be like this fella 

 

car will Total😅

[Theoldjaffa]

I'm considering to go back to an ICE car and have a few questions:

1. I've heard that you can't refuel ICE cars at home while you sleep? How often do you need to refuel elsewhere? Will there be a solution for refueling at home?

2. Which parts need to be serviced and how often? The car salesman mentioned the oil in the engine and the timing belt that need to be replaced, as well as a box with gears inside. What is that? How much will this oil change cost and how often—and what happens to the old oil? Also, these ICE cars usually only stop using the brakes—so the brakes wear out much faster. How long will they last compared to my current EV, which lasts over 100,000 km?

3. With an ICE car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?

4. The car I test-drove seemed to have a delay when I pressed the accelerator until it started accelerating. Is this normal for ICE vehicles?

5. I currently pay about $9 per 100 kilometres for driving the EV. I've heard that ICE cars can cost up to 5 times as much. Is this true?

6. Is it true that petrol is flammable?

7. I've heard that the main component of petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems, as well as conflicts and major wars that have claimed millions of lives over the past 100 years? Is there a solution?

8. I've also heard that oil has to be transported all over the world to be converted into petrol or diesel, and that these ships have damaged the environment in the past by leaking oil. Is this true?

9. I've heard that ICE cars are being banned in more and more cities around the world because they supposedly harm the environment and people's health? Is that true?

10. I've been told that these internal combustion engines make noise when you start them. So, if you leave early, you can wake people up.. especially if the exhaust is modified or is a supercar and if there are a lot of cars with internal combustion engines in the cities, the cities will become noisy.

11. Is it true that you can steal fuel from the tank?

12. How much range is lost in stop-start driving? I've been told that a car that normally consumes around 8 litres per 100 km can increase to 13 litres per 100 km in repeated stop-starting driving - I'm just curious.

13. I've also been told that the exhaust fumes are bad for you and that you'll die if you leave the car running in an enclosed space—like a garage—that's not true, is it?

14. A neighbour told me that these petrol cars contain about 40 to 60 litres of a highly flammable liquid that's pumped into a steel cylinder and then exploded to create expanding gas that moves a piston, converting linear motion into rotary motion. Why would anyone want thousands of explosions happening within a few metres of your seat?

15. A colleague at work told me that his car leaks oil. When he parks it, it leaves dirty stains on the ground, directly polluting the environment. How long does it take for something like that to happen?

16. My father told me—if you buy a diesel car—that you have to wear special gloves when refueling so your hands don't smell, and if you spill it on your clothes, it's horrible.

17. Is it true that petrol and diesel are so dangerous that they can only be purchased at petrol stations and not everywhere (hotels/parking lots/home/work)?

18. Despite technological advances, will I ever be able to refuel my ICE car for free using only the sun?

19. Would I be better off if I switched directly to horse and carriage? I heard there's a dealer called Cycle & Carriage that carries premium brands.

adapted from a FB post by Steffen Zo in Electrical Vehicles for Australia FB group

just for laughs ok! don't be so serious!

[RadX]

On 7/30/2025 at 1:21 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

I'm considering to go back to an ICE car and have a few questions:

1. I've heard that you can't refuel ICE cars at home while you sleep? How often do you need to refuel elsewhere? Will there be a solution for refueling at home?

2. Which parts need to be serviced and how often? The car salesman mentioned the oil in the engine and the timing belt that need to be replaced, as well as a box with gears inside. What is that? How much will this oil change cost and how often—and what happens to the old oil? Also, these ICE cars usually only stop using the brakes—so the brakes wear out much faster. How long will they last compared to my current EV, which lasts over 100,000 km?

3. With an ICE car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?

4. The car I test-drove seemed to have a delay when I pressed the accelerator until it started accelerating. Is this normal for ICE vehicles?

5. I currently pay about $9 per 100 kilometres for driving the EV. I've heard that ICE cars can cost up to 5 times as much. Is this true?

6. Is it true that petrol is flammable?

7. I've heard that the main component of petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems, as well as conflicts and major wars that have claimed millions of lives over the past 100 years? Is there a solution?

8. I've also heard that oil has to be transported all over the world to be converted into petrol or diesel, and that these ships have damaged the environment in the past by leaking oil. Is this true?

9. I've heard that ICE cars are being banned in more and more cities around the world because they supposedly harm the environment and people's health? Is that true?

10. I've been told that these internal combustion engines make noise when you start them. So, if you leave early, you can wake people up.. especially if the exhaust is modified or is a supercar and if there are a lot of cars with internal combustion engines in the cities, the cities will become noisy.

11. Is it true that you can steal fuel from the tank?

12. How much range is lost in stop-start driving? I've been told that a car that normally consumes around 8 litres per 100 km can increase to 13 litres per 100 km in repeated stop-starting driving - I'm just curious.

13. I've also been told that the exhaust fumes are bad for you and that you'll die if you leave the car running in an enclosed space—like a garage—that's not true, is it?

14. A neighbour told me that these petrol cars contain about 40 to 60 litres of a highly flammable liquid that's pumped into a steel cylinder and then exploded to create expanding gas that moves a piston, converting linear motion into rotary motion. Why would anyone want thousands of explosions happening within a few metres of your seat?

15. A colleague at work told me that his car leaks oil. When he parks it, it leaves dirty stains on the ground, directly polluting the environment. How long does it take for something like that to happen?

16. My father told me—if you buy a diesel car—that you have to wear special gloves when refueling so your hands don't smell, and if you spill it on your clothes, it's horrible.

17. Is it true that petrol and diesel are so dangerous that they can only be purchased at petrol stations and not everywhere (hotels/parking lots/home/work)?

18. Despite technological advances, will I ever be able to refuel my ICE car for free using only the sun?

19. Would I be better off if I switched directly to horse and carriage? I heard there's a dealer called Cycle & Carriage that carries premium brands.

adapted from a FB post by Steffen Zo in Electrical Vehicles for Australia FB group

just for laughs ok! don't be so serious!

20. What happens if I’m locked in a car and no battery in my ICe… car, is it same as in EV but in EV I have to break windows. ICE no need ?😅😅