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....In reality, if you really do all the RIGHT THINGS in life (like me), you get nowhere in your career [furious][lipsrsealed][:p]

You reckon that is a 'bad' thing? [:)] I will be happy if my kids do the right thing even if that means they will be getting no where in their career.

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I remembered my sec school essay.

 

"The police officer got into this car. He put on his seat belt. After checking the side and rear mirrors, he shut the door and on the engine. He then pursued the criminal."

 

Imagine I keep describing this every time the crook or the police got into the car.

 

I think my teacher dunno if I trying be detailed or just get the word count.....

 

And another classic. Describe your school essay.

 

"We come to school to study, not donate money..."

 

First time I got a line circled with the words SEE ME!

 

hahah

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I remembered my sec school essay.

 

"The police officer got into this car. He put on his seat belt. After checking the side and rear mirrors, he shut the door and on the engine. He then pursued the criminal."

 

Imagine I keep describing this every time the crook or the police got into the car.

 

I think my teacher dunno if I trying be detailed or just get the word count.....

 

And another classic. Describe your school essay.

 

"We come to school to study, not donate money..."

 

First time I got a line circled with the words SEE ME!

 

hahah

The second one is for word count. Lol.

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My sprog is in Primary 5, for the first time so far - last night I was truly disappointed in the school system.

 

By and large, I find the schools are doing a pretty decent job - so far the education has been going pretty well, I haven't always agreed with what they teach. But hey, I don't need to - they have been doing it rather well.

 

Last night, chatting with the kid - it is the first time I have been seriously upset at what they are doing.

 

Just had the "Chinese Composition" exam for first semester, and we were chit chatting about what she wrote.

 

Apparently they were given picture prompts - about a boy bullying his grandma, running into the road and almost getting run over.

 

Well ok, putting aside the rather ham fisted and heavy handed moralising - we talked about what she said next...

 

I suggested a story line of...

Seeing the boy in danger, Superman came flying out of the sky, and stopped the car just in time, lifting it up to protect the boy. But then, when he found out what had happened, he said "Nah - you don't deserve to be rescued" where upon he dropped the car onto the boy, turning him into ketchup.

 

Crotch spawn informed me that if she wrote that, she would be marked down for "going out of context" - WTF?????

 

Out of context?

 

No wonder the kids are so boring - they have to tell a predictable and "moral" story -

In my day, we were encouraged to try and shock / surprise the teacher.

Not write stories to some freaking boring formula!!!

 

Blardy hell - how to move forward like that?

 

 

 

 

sprog??.. i had to google to confirm the meaning..

 

am i outdated?.. lol...

 

 

but i sorta agree, i wont have come up with such an outrageous story..

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Turbocharged

 

sprog??.. i had to google to confirm the meaning..

 

am i outdated?.. lol...

 

 

but i sorta agree, i wont have come up with such an outrageous story..

How about crotch spawn?

Ankle biter

Money sink

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How about crotch spawn?

Ankle biter

Money sink

Are these terms native speak? .. Or some new tech..

 

Little spawning

A dog

A wife..

 

Lol... .

 

Please enlighten.. Thanksu

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TS, with pictures to infer how creative u expect?

 

It is not like, students to continue from

 

"On a dark and stormy night....."

 

If u start something like this on MCF, I gtd u can find many creative souls here....

 

U will find tiko-ness infused with a tad of poetry, mystery, romantic etc...

 

Eg from me,

 

On a dark and stormy night, the winds seems to echo "safety first". With only a candle lighting up a small area, huddling closer, I could hear my heart palpitating and my breathing becomes heavy. My mind suddenly went blank and my hands struggled to get the wrapping off.

 

Perspirations broke out as I struggled to recall the steps from the video as this is my first time and I want to leave a memorable impression.

 

A flash of lighting illuminated the the skies, casting light on the sleek body that everyone yearn to put their hands on. I savour the moments as I would be the first one to explore that body. Suddenly, the steps came back and I started to mouth the mantra.. ......."Wax On, Wax Off...protect your new car before you take it for a spin" :p

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How about crotch spawn?

Ankle biter

Money sink

 

My friend refers to her daughter as "spawn" or "the spawn". 100% local Chinese.

 

Good friend of mine, that might explain it.

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My sprog is in Primary 5, for the first time so far - last night I was truly disappointed in the school system.

 

By and large, I find the schools are doing a pretty decent job - so far the education has been going pretty well, I haven't always agreed with what they teach. But hey, I don't need to - they have been doing it rather well.

 

Last night, chatting with the kid - it is the first time I have been seriously upset at what they are doing.

 

Just had the "Chinese Composition" exam for first semester, and we were chit chatting about what she wrote.

 

Apparently they were given picture prompts - about a boy bullying his grandma, running into the road and almost getting run over.

 

Well ok, putting aside the rather ham fisted and heavy handed moralising - we talked about what she said next...

 

I suggested a story line of...

Seeing the boy in danger, Superman came flying out of the sky, and stopped the car just in time, lifting it up to protect the boy. But then, when he found out what had happened, he said "Nah - you don't deserve to be rescued" where upon he dropped the car onto the boy, turning him into ketchup.

 

Crotch spawn informed me that if she wrote that, she would be marked down for "going out of context" - WTF?????

 

Out of context?

 

No wonder the kids are so boring - they have to tell a predictable and "moral" story -

In my day, we were encouraged to try and shock / surprise the teacher.

Not write stories to some freaking boring formula!!!

 

Blardy hell - how to move forward like that?

 

 

 

 

Darryn, I am assuming your child is in our local school. It caters for the masses. If you want tailored made education, plenty of creativity, thought provoking education, then you need to move to International School. To be fair to our local school, there are improvements over the years and yes they do produce many outstanding citizens. Your choice.

 

Have you tried comparing public schools in the United States, United Kingdom and even New Zealand?

 

The point your brought up and being disappointed about is really uncalled for, at least, my personal opinion. Local schools tends to be fairly traditional in their curriculum. I would actually be happy because apart from learning composition, they get to learn about moral.

 

Your child is learning Chinese, and there must be a reason. Hence, the curriculum.

 

If you are unhappy with the system, you can always move to an international school and ship your child back to NZ for education.

 

I am disappointed, because of your child, one of the locals may have been deprived of a place or being placed somewhere far away from his/her home.

 

I really hope you can learn to accept this is our education system and if you feel there is a need to improve, go speak to the school rather than posting on the WWW. You should asked the school or teacher why it is like this before you post your disappointment.

 

Just be grateful.

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If you want your chinese teacher to improve your composition score, always stick to the tried and tested.

 

Most chinese teachers are traditional and conservative. While they won't mark u down for creative composition, u will usually not score high.

Stick to moral lessons, dicussion of current affairs from a conservative viewpoint generally won't go wrong. Well that worked well for me in the 1990s.

 

English composition, the teachers are generally more liberal. You can write whatever u want within reason.

The overseas cambridge examiners generally are more generous with their grades then our local markers.

 

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If you want your chinese teacher to improve your composition score, always stick to the tried and tested.

 

Most chinese teachers are traditional and conservative. While they won't mark u down for creative composition, u will usually not score high.

Stick to moral lessons, dicussion of current affairs from a conservative viewpoint generally won't go wrong. Well that worked well for me in the 1990s.

 

English composition, the teachers are generally more liberal. You can write whatever u want within reason.

The overseas cambridge examiners generally are more generous with their grades then our local markers.

 

 

You are right. I remembered I tend to score well in Chinese Compo. Maybe its because I read classic novels like romance of the 3 kingdoms, water margin as well as china history. Chinese teachers have a different mindset on how chinese language and culture should be. And it's actually in conflict with the path Singapore was developing under LKY.

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His child is Singaporean I think .

 

Darryn, I am assuming your child is in our local school. It caters for the masses. If you want tailored made education, plenty of creativity, thought provoking education, then you need to move to International School. To be fair to our local school, there are improvements over the years and yes they do produce many outstanding citizens. Your choice.

 

Have you tried comparing public schools in the United States, United Kingdom and even New Zealand?

 

The point your brought up and being disappointed about is really uncalled for, at least, my personal opinion. Local schools tends to be fairly traditional in their curriculum. I would actually be happy because apart from learning composition, they get to learn about moral.

 

Your child is learning Chinese, and there must be a reason. Hence, the curriculum.

 

If you are unhappy with the system, you can always move to an international school and ship your child back to NZ for education.

 

I am disappointed, because of your child, one of the locals may have been deprived of a place or being placed somewhere far away from his/her home.

 

I really hope you can learn to accept this is our education system and if you feel there is a need to improve, go speak to the school rather than posting on the WWW. You should asked the school or teacher why it is like this before you post your disappointment.

 

Just be grateful.

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Turbocharged

Screw you and your assumptions.

 

She's a citizen.

 

She's as much right to her place as anyone else.

 

Her mum is singapore Chinese. ...that's the reason for learning Chinese.

 

Darryn, I am assuming your child is in our local school. It caters for the masses. If you want tailored made education, plenty of creativity, thought provoking education, then you need to move to International School. To be fair to our local school, there are improvements over the years and yes they do produce many outstanding citizens. Your choice.

 

Have you tried comparing public schools in the United States, United Kingdom and even New Zealand?

 

The point your brought up and being disappointed about is really uncalled for, at least, my personal opinion. Local schools tends to be fairly traditional in their curriculum. I would actually be happy because apart from learning composition, they get to learn about moral.

 

Your child is learning Chinese, and there must be a reason. Hence, the curriculum.

 

If you are unhappy with the system, you can always move to an international school and ship your child back to NZ for education.

 

I am disappointed, because of your child, one of the locals may have been deprived of a place or being placed somewhere far away from his/her home.

 

I really hope you can learn to accept this is our education system and if you feel there is a need to improve, go speak to the school rather than posting on the WWW. You should asked the school or teacher why it is like this before you post your disappointment.

 

Just be grateful.

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You are right. I remembered I tend to score well in Chinese Compo. Maybe its because I read classic novels like romance of the 3 kingdoms, water margin as well as china history. Chinese teachers have a different mindset on how chinese language and culture should be. And it's actually in conflict with the path Singapore was developing under LKY.

 

The zhuang yuan of the past were lauded for being able to discuss the classics or as wordsmiths.

 

Even in higher chinese, there is less critical thinking. Usually the chinese teacher just wants to impart a deeper understanding of chinese literature.

 

I've met very few modern modern chinese teachers. Only one i know is my cousin lol.

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I think most of us treat chinese as a distinct 2nd language. And also, our chinese standards are very shallow compared to those in taiwan or china.

Hence we can't debate well in this language.

 

Our chinese language teaching in school is more focused on culture, morals and literacy standards. Hence we cannot dissect verbally/debate other arguments in mandarin.

Maybe there was a conscious/subconscious effort to reduce our affiliation with China.

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Nothing Confucian about this case.

 

 

I wrote in Traditional Chinese and marked wrong .. KNS. Technically, nothing wrong with writing in traditional Chinese. Nowadays, probably the same with writing American English.

Imagine getting ZERO for writing in classical Chinese.

no not this case but the usual morals of respect your elders.

But the degree of respect, you have to understand. I think you understand.

 

traditional Chinese? no such thing.. every dialect has their own writing.. Cantonese, teowchew, hokkien all different characters.

but you mean is "Fan Ti" old style writing.

and the new way and "right" way to educate learners is in using this style. its called modernizing a language.

 

American English? No, still the Queen's English. never any ambiguity. just that teachers may be careless with this.

 

kiang zu ho.. mai gei kiang.. :D

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