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Both engine died very very rare.

 

I wonder what happen.

 

not the first time rr engine got incidents. Got a issue with the a380 trent engines previously as well

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Both engine died very very rare.

 

I wonder what happen.

 

not the first time rr engine got incidents. Got a issue with the a380 trent engines previously as well

 

maybe fuel pump got problem or intermittent air lock...???

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i hope the SQ xmm not scared scared

 

Lol....wanna be knight in shining armor....provided legs not shaking....

 

Hee hee

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All commercial pilots go through line check and base checks, and one of the most important criteria is to put through possible scenarios in the simulators and test the pilots reactions to these situations. During the test which are conducted every 6 months, the various scenarios are tested, eg: engine on fire, aborted take off, engine flame out.... pilots do not know which scenario will come during the test.

 

Its as best as we could to be as real life in the simulators.

 

Correct me here: I heard that there is a short no-fly buffer period after airline pilots had gone through a round of simulator training.

 

Is this true ?

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My boss took Cathay from USA to Singapore last year. Then when the plane was going up there was a loud "bom" sound at the engine. Everyone was very scared. Then Cathay decided to turn back the flight and return back to the airport. No one was hurt in this incident.

 

That's exactly what happened to me on my flight to Toronto on a Air Canada 747 in 1986. Many of us was put up at Meridien Hotel@Changi while the Rolls-Royce Trent engine was replaced with a GE one.

[furious] [furious]

 

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...The engines were thoroughly inspected and tested upon arrival in Shanghai with no anomalies detected.

 

According to below link, it's not the 1st time both Trent engines loss power. If that's the same cause for SQ836, of course "no anomalies" will be detected since all ice would have melted. Duh.....

 

"...On 17 January 2008, a British Airways Boeing 777-236ER, operating as BA038 from Beijing to London, crash-landed at Heathrow after both Trent 800 engines lost power during the aircraft's final approach. The subsequent investigation found that ice released from the fuel system had accumulated on the fuel-oil heat exchanger, leading to a restriction of fuel flow to the engines.[10] This resulted in Airworthiness Directives mandating the replacement of the heat exchanger.[11] This order was extended to the 500 and 700 series engines after a similar loss of power was observed on one engine of an Airbus A330[11] in one incident, and both engines in another.[12] The modification involves replacing a face plate with many small protruding tubes with one that is flat."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Trent

 

 

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I am actually more worried that I think I am. Why?

 

There is so much automation in our planes nowadays (cars will soon be automated too - self drive) that many younger pilots would not have the skill sets to react in the event of a catastrophic failure. Even if they had they would have only theory and no practical lessons like the old guard pilots.

 

I think it is about time to go down to Seletar Airbase to get my private pilot licence just in case the boeing or airbus pilot needs help.

 

Now where is the joystick.

You will have better survival rate if you know how to breakdown the door first. Look at the recent suicide case, the captain could not even pass through the door. Times have change. Learn to break things efficiently first.

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a sudden loss of power to both engines is considered a very severe incident. i would be interested to know why the pilots deemed the aircraft safe to continue on its journey to Shanghai instead of making an emergency landing at a suitable airport nearby.

 

the second question would be, why was the aircraft being put back into operation before the investigation had even started? it flew back to SG with passengers on-board after a 4-hour check.

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SQ isn't one to mess around with safety protocols. Wait for the official report to be out.

 

The decision to fly back to SG was most probably decided by a team back in HQ with inputs from the ariframe and engine makers.

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Maybe the pilot accidentally pressed the cut-off power button of the engines then quickly turn it on again...haha.

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Set the record straight. Both engines were never shut down at any time. One stall beyond safe parameters and shut down to be restarted again. The rest of is strictly confidential.

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Maybe the pilot accidentally pressed the cut-off power button of the engines then quickly turn it on again...haha.

 

I would assume it takes more than a few switches and settings to throw before shutting down a jet engine completely at cruising speed and altitude.

 

In the nutshell, a sudden power-cut off to BOTH engine "accidentally" is very unlikely, unless the crew did that deliberately.

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Set the record straight. Both engines were never shut down at any time. One stall beyond safe parameters and shut down to be restarted again. The rest of is strictly confidential.

 

Wow..an engine stall during cruise ?

 

Sounds like the airflow to all the engines experience some sort of unusual disruption.

 

I thought modern jet engines are pretty robust against this sort of conditions as compared to older models.

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