Theoldjaffa Hypersonic October 16, 2017 Share October 16, 2017 Ahemm....isn't that a ripoff from King Long?Not really I guess ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 16, 2017 Share October 16, 2017 Otherwise great opportunity lost! BTW, has anyone compared the Stinger vs Genesis? Seems much of the hardware are similar.. The Stinger is built on the Genesis G70 platform but it has wildly different setup and suspension components thanks to the valiant efforts of the team made of the former M-head and other headhunts (including Porsche engineers!). The Stinger weighs more and has a slower century sprint, but is tuned in a way that has resulted in far superior handling according to reviewers. There's a direct comparison here. Of course there is a lot of other differences that are more obvious - designs, with the Stinger having a more A7SB like shape and a tail end that's a cross between said A7 and a Maser Ghibli (if you ask me, you can compare it to an Estima if you really wanted) - Stinger is a liftback while Genesis G70 is a more typical sedan with a shape that reminds me of C-class (indeed the Genesis G70 is much shorter C-class sized) Then I suppose it also goes to branding, KIA is KIA whereas Genesis is kind of in limbo, very few people recognize that name here at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungyee77 5th Gear October 16, 2017 Share October 16, 2017 Similar approach to what Toyota uses in Japan actually i.e. many of the upper spec Toyotas such as Vellfire, Alphard, Harrier, Previa/Estima have their own logos the korean kia logo is not so similar, the uncertain-origin K badge that people are using is somewhat different from King Long in subtle ways. But the K in a roundel I posted is distinct from King Long in several ways and has been around for at least five years, mainly used only in Korea... it seems it hasn't seen much use since 2012. It is interesting that over there the logos are different in some cases. Dunno what E means here. This badge doesn't look very premium either to be honest. From what I see majority of their line up uses the KIA logotype emblem we are familiar with. Still I believe the Stinger would feel less polluted if it had an emblem depicting, maybe, a stylized wasp or snake or something venomous; they've done alternative emblems before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 16, 2017 Share October 16, 2017 Not really I guess 54400140-30C3-4DDF-8A21-AAA5A472EE99.jpeg But really, why bother? Ppl who know abt cars will know it's a Kia no matter what badge they slap over. Ppl who dun know abt cars, won't care. So malu to buy Kia meh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 But really, why bother? Ppl who know abt cars will know it's a Kia no matter what badge they slap over. Ppl who dun know abt cars, won't care. So malu to buy Kia meh?I think it's because the badge is really ugly, so change for aesthetic purposes. Not so much of malu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 But really, why bother? Ppl who know abt cars will know it's a Kia no matter what badge they slap over. Ppl who dun know abt cars, won't care. So malu to buy Kia meh? for some yes. very malu. won't ever be caught dead with one. unbefitting with their image. i'll buy one if its 140k. and 180k for the 3.3L. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 Kia emblem is shit ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 I think it's because the badge is really ugly, so change for aesthetic purposes. Not so much of malu. But King Long nice meh? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Privacy 5th Gear October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 Kia emblem is shit uglyworse than proton and perdura they say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern Supercharged October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 Yes the KIA badge is really ugly... even the Tuscani had a different badge. Stinger should have a nice S badge... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 But King Long nice meh?I never knew King Long has this lookalike. But still better than the Kia font lah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 They should do what Nissan did to the GTR. Put the badge at the rear only. In front only "GTR". This will put more focus on the model than the brand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 Gotta remember that Kia is still undergoing the 'brand credibility' stage. Cars like the Stinger is meant to change people's perception about Kia. That's probably why the ugly Kia badge is still on it. Meant to thumb it up at the competitors. So buy oredi dun rebadge as King Long hor. Peter Schreyer will be very upset....LOL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 Gotta remember that Kia is still undergoing the 'brand credibility' stage. Cars like the Stinger is meant to change people's perception about Kia. That's probably why the ugly Kia badge is still on it. Meant to thumb it up at the competitors. So buy oredi dun rebadge as King Long hor. Peter Schreyer will be very upset....LOL I agree with that. The Stinger is a Kia's halo car and probably will not sell by the bucketloads. If cars like the Stinger, G70 and i30N changes people's perception about the brands and willingly accepts just a small $500 increase in the price of their B&B cars, then it a cool $2.5b increase in revenue for the Hyundai/Kia group. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridcar 3rd Gear October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 btw, here is the explainations on the 'E' logo on Stinger... which only for Korean domestic market only http://www.caradvice.com.au/537640/kia-e-badge-explained-debuts-on-korean-stinger/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungyee77 5th Gear October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 (edited) Was reading a few of the reviews re how the Stinger's performance compares. From a purely numbers perspective, the 3.3L is equivalent to the C-class AMG43 (List price S$320k), Audi S5 (S$315k) and better than the BMW 440i Gran Coupe (S$293k). Pretty decent badge arbitrage if it comes in at $170k-190k. The C43 comp is probably a problem for C&C ... Probably also the reason my C&C SE keeps telling me not to go for the 3.3L (i.e. 2.0 is enough power, 3.3L is hard to sell later etc etc). Edited October 18, 2017 by Fungyee77 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 Maybe this logo also can 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 (edited) Yes the KIA badge is really ugly... even the Tuscani had a different badge. Stinger should have a nice S badge... Edited October 18, 2017 by Eyke ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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