Harrier 2017

[Fcw75]

Honda and Mazda really sweating now.

[AFWE69]

PI sell about 400 Harriers per quarter so the number is about right, but now the wait list already into Dec, some may just move on to other cars.

Honda and Mazda really sweating now.

CRV 7 Seaters will attract certain people, CX-5 is always a niche car. Edited July 22, 2017 by AFWE69

[therock]

As I had previously posted n now confirmed, Borneo has some 400 bookings for the Harrier already! They really huat n I guess the numbers will only increase esp since there is en elegance version now introduced as well for the more budget conscious!

Help you post bro:

http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/motoring/harrier-herald

 

 

After being here for more than a decade as a parallel import, the Toyota Harrier sport utility vehicle (SUV) was launched by authorised agent Borneo Motors on Thursday.

The car is a turbocharged variant and Singapore is the first in Asia outside Japan to have it.

With prices starting below $150,000, it is proving to be a hot seller. Even before its launch, Borneo Motors has garnered some 400 bookings (for the luxury grade).

The Straits Times talks to Harrier chief engineer Yoshikazu Saeki to find out more about the model and why Toyota has made it available outside Japan.

PREVIOUSLY, THE HARRIER SHARED THE SAME PLATFORM AS THE LEXUS RX. NOW, IT SHARES A PLATFORM WITH THE RAV4 AND LEXUS NX. WHY?

Yes, the Harrier, RAV4 and NX are brothers. We decided to change when the RX grew in size. Being more compact, it is more manoeuvrable and easier to park. There is no Toyota-badged equivalent to the RX now.

YOU NOW HAVE A TURBOCHARGED VERSION. ARE TURBOS BECOMING MORE POPULAR IN JAPAN? WHAT ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH PARTICULATE MATTER?

Turbos certainly have become more popular, even in Japan. But we don't know if this popularity will continue to grow.

 

 

Developing an engine costs a lot of money. So we try to use engines across model ranges, and over a five-, 10-year period. This turbo engine was first seen in the Lexus NX.

As for particulate matter, it really depends on how we strike a balance between environmental protection and vehicle cost.

Globally, taxation has to change. Countries should look at how enviornmentally friendly a car is and not just base taxes on engine displacement.

For manufacturers, it is very difficult to clear all the various legislations with one car. It is not possible to satisfy all at the same time. But we shouldn't give up.

WILL THERE BE A HYBRID VERSION?

In Japan, yes. But there are no plans to export it right now. We will gauge the interest level here and see if customers want a hybrid, before we decide.

WHY DID TOYOTA MAKE THE HARRIER AVAILABLE TO SINGAPORE NOW, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS? IS THE MARKET IN JAPAN SHRINKING?

The SUV market is expanding everywhere. In Japan, the SUV market is also expanding, while the market for sedans and hatchbacks is shrinking. We feel the Harrier, as a stylish urban vehicle, will resonate with buyers here.

WILL THERE BE MORE JAPANESE DOMESTIC MODELS COMING TO SINGAPORE?

Frankly speaking, I can't say much about this. But I think the most important thing is to see whether Singapore customers will like the Harrier. If you try to catch two birds, you may end up catching not even one.

BUT THE HARRIER HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE POPULAR IN THE LAST DECADE OR SO.

I'm fully aware there's been a lot of parallel imports. But I believe that just selling a car is not enough. It is important to keep a relationship with the customer. Borneo Motors is taking the first step in building this relationship with Harrier customers.

[Jiababuay]

PI sell about 400 Harriers per quarter so the number is about right, but now the wait list already into Dec, some may just move on to other cars.

CRV 7 Seaters will attract certain people, CX-5 is always a niche car.

CRV taking forever to launch...I really hope Harrier take all their biz

[Spring]

Help you post bro:

http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/motoring/harrier-herald

Tks! Hope all is well with u!!

I went with 2 friends last Sunday n they test drove the car whilst I sat at the back. They were impressed n sitting from the back, I felt the car was quiet, refined n quite responsive n as they also test drove the cx5 later, conclusion was that Harrier is the better drive n is responsive but cx5 interior more classy!

CRV taking forever to launch...I really hope Harrier take all their biz

Crv 7 seater price more ex than BMW 216GT! How to sell?

Edited July 22, 2017 by Spring

[Lawkoh]

For the answer of of 0-100

It's reported in the below link

 

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-motoring/toyota-harrier-20-premium-review-mine-is-harrier-than-yours

 

Toyota Harrier 2.0 Premium

 

Engine 1,998cc, 16V, inline 4 turbo

Power 231hp at 5,200-5,600rpm

Torque 350Nm at 1,650rpm

Gearbox 6-speed automatic

Top speed 180km/h

0-100km/h 7.3 seconds

Fuel efficiency 7.6L/100km

CO2 177g/km

Price S$152,988 (with COE)

Agent Borneo Motors

[AFWE69]

7.3 s is pretty impressive for a SUV. When I test-drive, I didn't feel it was that fast but comfort level was fantastic.

Edited July 22, 2017 by AFWE69

[therock]

Yeah Thai crv costs around the same as a BMW. Tough sell.

At least the Harrier is a Lexus cousin so it has its fans.

Impressive 0-100 figures. Maybe it's so quiet so you don't notice the progress..

Let's hope some silly driver doesn't knock down another biker and use the same excuse again ..

[Theoldjaffa]

As I had previously posted n now confirmed, Borneo has some 400 bookings for the Harrier already! They really huat n I guess the numbers will only increase esp since there is en elegance version now introduced as well for the more budget conscious!

400 units. Assume 20k margin per car.

 

Simplistically speaking, That's 800k in one month!

 

Huat ah!

Honda and Mazda really sweating now.

Reminds me of Inner Circle's song lyrics:

 

Girl I'm gonna make you sweat... Sweat till you can't sweat no more... And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some moreeeeeeeeeee

 

 

[7hm]

For the answer of of 0-100

It's reported in the below link

 

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-motoring/toyota-harrier-20-premium-review-mine-is-harrier-than-yours

 

Toyota Harrier 2.0 Premium

 

Engine 1,998cc, 16V, inline 4 turbo

Power 231hp at 5,200-5,600rpm

Torque 350Nm at 1,650rpm

Gearbox 6-speed automatic

Top speed 180km/h

0-100km/h 7.3 seconds

Fuel efficiency 7.6L/100km

CO2 177g/km

Price S$152,988 (with COE)

Agent Borneo Motors

 

That official time is rather impressive, it is seemingly quicker than the FXT's official post, perhaps because the torque has a small 5Nm advantage but a few hundred revs earlier. Heck, my car's official time is higher than that.

 

But the top speed at 180km/h suggests it still has a JDM-style limiter on. Shouldn't be a problem for the general driver though.

[Lawkoh]

400 units. Assume 20k margin per car.

 

Simplistically speaking, That's 800k in one month!

 

Huat ah!

Reminds me of Inner Circle's song lyrics:

 

Girl I'm gonna make you sweat... Sweat till you can't sweat no more... And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some moreeeeeeeeeee

 

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Why u so chek ark? You got a beef with KM?

Bro, base on your assumption, you are missing one more Zero !

SE comms is already $400k if $1k per car

[Jamesoon]

400 units. Assume 20k margin per car.

 

Simplistically speaking, That's 800k in one month!

 

Huat ah!

Reminds me of Inner Circle's song lyrics:

 

Girl I'm gonna make you sweat... Sweat till you can't sweat no more... And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some moreeeeeeeeeee

 

 

[AFWE69]

BM's current drawback is only the bloody long lengthy delivery time. Still trying to understand why my booking on the 30th June vs another bro's booking here on this forum on the 24th have lead delivery time to slipped to Oct.

 

In my view this only indicate that the allocation to SG is rather limited...

I read somewhere that the initial monthly production is only 2,500 cars a month to satisfy Japan, Singapore and maybe Malaysia. Maybe Singapore allocation is 100 units a month.

Edited July 22, 2017 by AFWE69

[therock]

June to October?

Go ask our GLC drivers... they will shed tears of joy for such a short wait ;)

[Dna_engine]

My neighbour is interested in getting the Harrier but not happy with the sales person. Can anyone recommend a good contact from BM?

[Nonewposts]

As I had previously posted n now confirmed, Borneo has some 400 bookings for the Harrier already! They really huat n I guess the numbers will only increase esp since there is en elegance version now introduced as well for the more budget conscious!

article mentioned that 400 bookings is only for luxury grade. I guess most people went for the luxury grade

[Vratenza]

Why not happy with BM SE ?

 

I thought they are more or less relegated to cheque collecting staff in nice uniform during this Harrier Turbo period?

 

How do one mess up a job as simple as this?

 

 

 

My neighbour is interested in getting the Harrier but not happy with the sales person. Can anyone recommend a good contact from BM?

 

[Dna_engine]

Why not happy with BM SE ?

 

I thought they are more or less relegated to cheque collecting staff in nice uniform during this Harrier Turbo period?

 

How do one mess up a job as simple as this?

 

 

He drives a 5-series, maybe his expectation was more white-gloved treatment. His complain was the sales lady was not proactive, maybe not responding to his questions because busy collecting cheques.