VES 2018

[Char]

Hmmm so stringent on our sg cars, but close both eyes for the Malaysian trucks, lorries and cars entering sg...

 

When you see on our roads those black fumes shooting out from the exhausts of those Malaysian vehicles you will wonder if there is any meaning to the CEVS other than just a new policy to eat more $$ from us

Just need our Neighbour burn forest all effort bye bye .

[Carbon82]

Whatever the  fine tuning, changes, U-turn to the VES scheme, there is ONE most important questions that is left unanswered:

 

Which particular Driving Cycle / Vehicle Emission Standard shall the results be based on?

 

OK, for those of you that are not so familiar with the above, there are currently 3 widely used Testing Standard, namely:

 

1) NEDC - New European Driving Cycle (Europe)

2) FTP-75 / EPA Federal Test Procedure (US)

3) JC08 (Japan)

 

Beside these, Korea, China, India, Australia, etc. also have their own testing standard for determining vehicle emission parameters. 

 

Why is this so important? Well the very same car, when tested under different standard, will produce different results, even when under the same environment and load conditions. That is mainly due to the difference in driving cycle / patterns prescribed under the test standard.

 

Put it in layman term, standard A may call for the vehicle to accelerate from 0 - 80 Km/h in say 45 sec, while standard B call for vehicle to accelerate from 0 - 100 Km/h in say 50 sec, and so naturally the results will be different, because the rate of pick up and speed are different in both case (variables). And that is not all, the duration of idling, top speed in city / urban driving conditions varies too among the various standards. 

 

Still confused? OK, here is a simpler illustration, a primary 6 student sit for PSLE exam in Singapore may not score the same results if he/she sit for PSAT exam in Malaysia and vice versa, although the topics are the same (syllabus and marking requirement varies). 

 

A new driving cycle / test standard, known as WLTP (Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedures) or WLTC (Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Cycle) is already in the pipeline, and is targeted to be introduced and adopted by most auto manufacturers and countries before end of this year. I cannot comprehend why our LTA do not want to wait for this standard to be launched, before embarking on the new VES scheme. Going at this rate, further flipping of prata is inevitable in the next few months.

 

 

The Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP) defines a global harmonized standard for determining the levels of pollutants and CO₂ emissions, fuel or energy consumption, and electric range from light-duty vehicles (passenger cars and light commercial vans).

 

Experts from the European Union, Japan, and India under guidelines of UNECE World Forum for Harmonization of Vehicle Regulations, are involved in the development of this new standard.

[TangoElite]

why am i not surprised....

 

Singapore prata is like a cube, can flip more than 2 times

[No_worries]

WTF!

 

I think this is the clearest evidence so far that LTA doesn't know what its doing.

 

How can we let these bunch of goondus run our national transportation body? What a laughing stock.

It should be LTA and NEA that does not know what they doing. Lta is far better off focus efforts to improving public transport and NEA catch litter bugs rather than thinking or kenging more new ways to suck money from car owners.

 

I am sure all of you will agree with me, our Mrt train standard and general state of cleanliness has deteriorated over the years since the 1990s.

[doraemon69sg]

How about those old Euro 4/5 cars? Are they able to pass inspection for Euro VI emission standards? If can, then basically they are Euro 6 emission standards capable, so why change to Euro 6 for new car from Jan 2018? If cannot pass Euro 6, then how? Car cannot drive or slap with penalties? Just my doubts, checked with LTA/ NEA website, not much details available.

[Char]

I think we better ride horse , cow or donkey to achieve zero emission ! Ophs ! These animal fart consider some deduction in emission standards?

[Sdf4786k]

It should be LTA and NEA that does not know what they doing. Lta is far better off focus efforts to improving public transport and NEA catch litter bugs rather than thinking or kenging more new ways to suck money from car owners.

 

I am sure all of you will agree with me, our Mrt train standard and general state of cleanliness has deteriorated over the years since the 1990s.

 

Sometimes its like working in a company. You do not want to be deem as a cost center.

 

Ever seen Tea Lady being retrenched?

 

And in this day and age, the banks still have mail room to dispatch mails.. But its a non critical area and the staff or rather the non local use that to ferry their personal stuff over OR getting their on line purchases over.

 

So there is a reason for everything that they do. Just that sometimes it gets rather obvious who is the village idiot.

Edited June 14, 2017 by Sdf4786k

[inlinesix]

The constant changing of policies just shows that the most famous prata is not at Jalan Kayu, it is at Sin Ming!

 

Not Hampshire road meh?

[Leo72]

How about those old Euro 4/5 cars? Are they able to pass inspection for Euro VI emission standards? If can, then basically they are Euro 6 emission standards capable, so why change to Euro 6 for new car from Jan 2018? If cannot pass Euro 6, then how? Car cannot drive or slap with penalties? Just my doubts, checked with LTA/ NEA website, not much details available.

The VES scheme is for car registration tax purpose and LTA / NEA haven't decide what to do with those already on the road, most probably will not affect those on the road or maybe just slap a bit of carbon tax lor.. 

[Mockngbrd]

 

[Char]

This year is the good year to buy car .

[Mockngbrd]

[Solar]

They had years to do analysis and get feedback. But still always cock up. Bottom line is to get everything in order and then announce right? Reeks of incompetency to keep adding and changing bits every few months. I say sack the whole lot of them. Useless!!

Iron rice bowl.. Where to place them.. so bear with it for another 20 years till these goons retire and hope the new bunch has some sense..

[Perspectivism]

I wish I were working at LTA. Iron rice bowl and all you do everything is think of ways to suck more money from people on the streets. If your justification for sucking money is weak, just flip prata and call a triangle a rectangle with 3 sides.

 

No job in the world is better than this: to pwn your fellow citizens.

 

Anyway retrenchment and a famous family feud is setting in. In this background, im staying off buying of cars in the foreseeable future

Edited June 14, 2017 by Perspectivism

[Char]

I think we better ride horse , cow or donkey to achieve zero emission ! Ophs ! These animal fart consider some deduction in emission standards?

CAT B entitle you to register a horse , CAT A for donkey and CAT C for cow .

[Gnomish]

I am confused. just tell me buy now or wait till when?

[1fast1]

Not Hampshire road meh?

 

Why do you think they're located there? It's in Little India. LTA Occifers can learn to flip prata from the best of the best!!

[1fast1]

why am i not surprised....

 

Singapore prata is like a cube, can flip more than 2 times