[Error] Mazda & Vezel Thread

[AreaKruzer]

Need u guys to help me check if ur auto start/stop light comes on for a brief moment after ignition of the engine.

[Maskedrider]

What got to do with LTA for the recall?

Normally this is direct replacement from the car brand if there's a faulty issue being found out

[Calvy]

Need u guys to help me check if ur auto start/stop light comes on for a brief moment after ignition of the engine.

 

Hi bro... from the various messages which you have posted... not sure if I understand correctly...

but it seemed like you have misunderstand the indicator...

The auto Start/Stop light is on the button itself. There is no indicator on the screen.

If it lights up, then the feature is disabled. If no lights (by default), feature is enabled.

 

The circular arrow with the A light will only light up when u turn on "Brake Hold" AND you have come to a complete stop.

It is not to indicate the Start/Stop feature.

 

Hope I am not the one misinterpreting your understanding.. hehe...

cheers!

[AreaKruzer]

I thought brake hold is a green indicator with the wording brake hold?

[Silklee]

Seems to me that at least a couple of PIs are reacting rather positively (though now it mostly only talk, no action yet). If they do it well, they can certainly build a good reputation for themselves. In any case, this gives me a little more confidence to transact with a PI should I ever decide to buy a Harrier.

[Glyuen]

talk and "assurance" is easy at this point. seems like the financial cost to them is going to be high. heard it's 70k yen before freight for each car they have to fix.

 

most of them say they are awaiting LTA

 

some say awaiting supplier shipment of the replacement parts..

 

only time will tell a few months down the road if they actually implement their talk or come up with more excuses

 

dont forget that these people are very good at "talking" and promising.

 

for now, they have to come out and say something to protect their Vezel cash cow, collect more orders and prevent potential customers from going to their competitors if they had stayed silent. anyway talk is free.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Glyuen

[Yysiong]

Ermm.. not splashing cold water here. But if you buy from a small PI that is always cheaper than others, may have to worry a bit. Might have to pay to fix it

 

PI get their car from Car dealer in Japan. Factory wil send out the replacement parts to the dealer, and teach the service crew on the replacement method if it is out of the norm

 

It is entirely up to individual car dealer in japan if they are keen to give the parts to PI or not, or they want to sell them for a profit. In the eyes of honda japan, vezel is JDM, export unit is invisible to them. To a certain extend, no manufacturer allows export though they know its happening.

 

So, even if the dealer will give free, PI also need to import it in which has a cost. Workshop wont do this free as well as this is not a warranty issue, so PI might have to pay 2 way. (Some WS work on the basis of charging per warranty service to PI, as some PI just want to test their luck and only to pay if vehicle is faulty instead of pay lump sum to WS for a 3 year warranty by them)

 

If they sell too many vezel and had to fork out alot to solve this, they might choose to close shop and stay low. 2 year later open another PI change name

 

If you bought from a reputable PI, they will most likely do it for free.

[Matrix0405]

All the Tai-chi will start... the Chassis numbers already published by Honda. 

 

Still need wait for LTA to issue notice? Owners can check for themselves.

 

Seems like this is quite a significant risk or problem (fire) especially in our weather. 

 

 

Fire is a significant problem. This one cannot be ignored. 

[Rachdanom]

Just joined as was about to get a Vezel and this came out. Is it against the forum rules to name the PIs that have responded positively? Like to know as it helps me in choosing which PI.

 

On second thought :

http://m.golocalpdx.com/autos/car-manufacturers-with-the-most-vehicles-recalled

Edited April 5, 2016 by Rachdanom

[EricChan]

Ermm.. not splashing cold water here. But if you buy from a small PI that is always cheaper than others, may have to worry a bit. Might have to pay to fix it

 

PI get their car from Car dealer in Japan. Factory wil send out the replacement parts to the dealer, and teach the service crew on the replacement method if it is out of the norm

 

It is entirely up to individual car dealer in japan if they are keen to give the parts to PI or not, or they want to sell them for a profit. In the eyes of honda japan, vezel is JDM, export unit is invisible to them. To a certain extend, no manufacturer allows export though they know its happening.

 

So, even if the dealer will give free, PI also need to import it in which has a cost. Workshop wont do this free as well as this is not a warranty issue, so PI might have to pay 2 way. (Some WS work on the basis of charging per warranty service to PI, as some PI just want to test their luck and only to pay if vehicle is faulty instead of pay lump sum to WS for a 3 year warranty by them)

 

If they sell too many vezel and had to fork out alot to solve this, they might choose to close shop and stay low. 2 year later open another PI change name

 

If you bought from a reputable PI, they will most likely do it for free.

PI has been a positive factor with regards to car ownership . They have kept car prices in check with the more competitive offer they make vis a vis AD. So important to bear that in mind.

[rovwei]

The fastest way to activate/charge up start/stop function is to off your aircon and fan and other electronic gadgets. Then drive for a minute or two without stopping at moderate speed.

 

The start/stop will not operate if you

1. stop while in extremely low speed

2. set aircon temp very low i.e., 19degree, at 25degree with max fan is harder to kick in.

3. maximum fan speed while aircon compressor is still working hard to cool the cabin.

4. other electronics (audio amp etc) that may cause your engine to work harder for electrical

 

These information was gathered from my daily usage observation.

Another point:

5. If u didnt put on seat belt, auto start stop will not work..

[Vinzntonic]

Just talked to my PI in the evening, quoted that the chasis range not all affected, TBH some of the cars have been out for more den a year.. if daiji come out *touch wood* might have appeared long ago.. never really hear much of the negative parts yet..

 

Anyway my PI, small firm have emailed Japan side, awaiting their confirmation and the parts.. will keep me posted if there's more.. so can rest assure for now.. later part, later den worry..*touch wood* nothing happen for now.. dun get into kiasee mode..

[Kopites]

Just talked to my PI in the evening, quoted that the chasis range not all affected, TBH some of the cars have been out for more den a year.. if daiji come out *touch wood* might have appeared long ago.. never really hear much of the negative parts yet..

 

Anyway my PI, small firm have emailed Japan side, awaiting their confirmation and the parts.. will keep me posted if there's more.. so can rest assure for now.. later part, later den worry..*touch wood* nothing happen for now.. dun get into kiasee mode..

I agreed. I reckon change lane without signal, blind spot, drink driving, sotong driver etc even more dangerous. When times for recall just sent her back for repair.

 

This isn't the first time vehicle are being recall nor will it be the last.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Kopites

[GLXi]

Ermm.. not splashing cold water here. But if you buy from a small PI that is always cheaper than others, may have to worry a bit. Might have to pay to fix it

 

PI get their car from Car dealer in Japan. Factory wil send out the replacement parts to the dealer, and teach the service crew on the replacement method if it is out of the norm

 

It is entirely up to individual car dealer in japan if they are keen to give the parts to PI or not, or they want to sell them for a profit. In the eyes of honda japan, vezel is JDM, export unit is invisible to them. To a certain extend, no manufacturer allows export though they know its happening.

 

So, even if the dealer will give free, PI also need to import it in which has a cost. Workshop wont do this free as well as this is not a warranty issue, so PI might have to pay 2 way. (Some WS work on the basis of charging per warranty service to PI, as some PI just want to test their luck and only to pay if vehicle is faulty instead of pay lump sum to WS for a 3 year warranty by them)

 

If they sell too many vezel and had to fork out alot to solve this, they might choose to close shop and stay low. 2 year later open another PI change name

 

If you bought from a reputable PI, they will most likely do it for free.

Does yr contract includes manufacturer recall when u buy the car..? If so. Then cost of bringing in in n replacement will not be an issue at all. Just why some larger PI sells higher price. The factor things like

1. Cost of recall , parts n labor

2. Cost of guaranteed Coe

3. Cost of guaranteed delivery before Coe expires

4. Cost of parts within the 3 yrs or 100000km which ever comes first

5. Cost to keep the biz going in good n bad times.

 

This will explain why some PI r more expensive than others. They also need to feed their staff n family.

 

Just make sure that all these are written in the contract. But having said that.. if company chooses to close down what can u do ?? There is no guarantees in life...

[Si4dr]

Since the recall is for JDM, who will inform our LTA?(sorry if stupid question)

[Yysiong]

Does yr contract includes manufacturer recall when u buy the car..? If so. Then cost of bringing in in n replacement will not be an issue at all. Just why some larger PI sells higher price. The factor things like

1. Cost of recall , parts n labor

2. Cost of guaranteed Coe

3. Cost of guaranteed delivery before Coe expires

4. Cost of parts within the 3 yrs or 100000km which ever comes first

5. Cost to keep the biz going in good n bad times.

 

This will explain why some PI r more expensive than others. They also need to feed their staff n family.

 

Just make sure that all these are written in the contract. But having said that.. if company chooses to close down what can u do ?? There is no guarantees in life...

Yep. Moral of the story is, sometimws cheapest is not the best.

 

Some of the bros here are 1st time car buyer, they may not be aware of such terms in the sales agreement

[EricChan]

Yep. Moral of the story is, sometimws cheapest is not the best.

 

Some of the bros here are 1st time car buyer, they may not be aware of such terms in the sales agreement

OTOH, small PI with their nimble pricing keeps the big PI from moving closer to AD pricing bracket and their presence hence is generally good for car owners

[rovwei]

Hi bro... from the various messages which you have posted... not sure if I understand correctly...

but it seemed like you have misunderstand the indicator...

The auto Start/Stop light is on the button itself. There is no indicator on the screen.

If it lights up, then the feature is disabled. If no lights (by default), feature is enabled.

 

The circular arrow with the A light will only light up when u turn on "Brake Hold" AND you have come to a complete stop.

It is not to indicate the Start/Stop feature.

 

Hope I am not the one misinterpreting your understanding.. hehe...

 

 

 

cheers!

 

I think the the circle with A inside will appear in the dash board once the auto start/stop is activated.

 

Mine is always not activated as i disabled it through my driving habit..lol..