Safe Overtaking

[Hermitage]

All this talk of safety distances and braking times do NOT detract from the fact that if there's a faster car behind you...GIVE WAY!!!

[Pisces69]

Please do not be confused also if someone overtakes you and jam brake in front of you - at ten car lengths a 100km/h you may seem to be road hogging. No hard feelings - I really respect your safe distance policy. But I would also suggest you convince the tailgaters behind you too.

 

 

Point noted but 1 car length fr every 10kmh is e international standard.

 

It seems like many drivers here hv their own 'standard'.

 

So far i never had any car cut in front n jam brake on me. Maybe its cos i give way when i see a faster car coming up behind me. But usually i am e faster car coming up behind e others but i notice most SG drivers refuse to give way as ty think since ty r going at abt e speed limit ty dont need to give way to faster vehicles.

 

Maybe cos SG drivers lack experience driving in other countries where it is normal fr a car to give way to any other vehicle coming up behind travelling faster than them.

 

I wonder if its an 'ego' thing or just that SG drivers feel 100kmh is already damm fast n ty just grip e steering till their knuckles turn white n stare straight ahead cos ty r scared to death.

 

HAHAHA

 

[Pisces69]

Nope. My cousin rear ended someone with his forte. He always leaves about 4-5 car lengths. Guess his reaction time is more than 0.8s. Thats why he hit the guy infront.

 

 

Many inexperienced drivers over-estimate their driving skills.

 

Ty only find out e truth sfter ty hv hit e car in front n say ''Wah it all happen so fast. I tot sure can stop in time''.

 

[Jchuacl]

Frankly, p-plate driver most likely did not step on the brake hard enough from personal experience. From my recent experience of couple of months ago when I e-brake from 80-0, it took me approximately 3.5-4.5 car lengths from the time I react to the time I stop. And I was using the top of range performance tyres, so most likely I won't be able to make it in 5 car lengths if I were using normal tyres for 100km/h to 0.

 

 

He didn't clutch in. He let it stall. He was p-plate at that time but in my family cuz we run a transport company all of us started driving at around 15-16. Normally he looks 3-4 cars ahead so although he keep 5 car lengths he still can react in time cuz he see far ahead. For this accident there was no other cars to look out for except for the car directly infront of him.

 

[Pisces69]

unless there are other cars that can auto calculate the car infront...

 

 

The volvos auto-braking system wil not prevent an accident.

 

It wil only slow down e car to reduce e imact of e accident unless e driver takes over n hits e brakes hard.

 

This technology sud b on many more cars in abt 10 years time. I think merc is also going to hv a similar system in their cars soon.

[Pisces69]

if that is the case.. please avoid lane 1 at all cost.

 

It is very dangerous to cut in front of a car n jam brakes. Sud not b done unless u dont mind having yr rear end repaired.

 

It might also cause innocent drivers behind n to e side to b involved in an accident.

 

[Pisces69]

If u read the first few post I did explain how it happened. He was watching the vehicle that was infront of the car infront of him. Couldn't see more than 2 cars ahead cuz it was a lorry. A large branch fell off the lorry and the car infront jammed his brakes when he saw the branch. My cousin didn't notice the branch fall off the lorry cuz the leaves of the branches were hanging out of the lorry and made it hard to see the branch fall off. Maybe thats why lorries should not be on the first lane. All of them were travelling at constant speed of around 100km/h before the accident.

 

 

So maybe if everyone was observing e 1 car length fr every 10kmh, an accident wud hv been avoided?

 

 

What do u think?

 

[Nzy]

Frankly, p-plate driver most likely did not step on the brake hard enough from personal experience. From my recent experience of couple of months ago when I e-brake from 80-0, it took me approximately 3.5-4.5 car lengths from the time I react to the time I stop. And I was using the top of range performance tyres, so most likely I won't be able to make it in 5 car lengths if I were using normal tyres for 100km/h to 0.

 

He definitely stepped all the way. Cuz can feel the abs and got abit of screeching and some skid marks. Thats the reason why I feel that at 100km/h should keep more than 5 car length distance. Cuz I doubt most ppl in Singapore will be using high performance tires.

Edited October 25, 2010 by Nzy

[Pisces69]

I though someone else quoted less than 5 cars length to stop from 100km/h (only the braking distance, exclude reaction time) to impress us (laugh). Then what speed was he driving? The road condition?

 

I think it was mentioned by a Michael Shoemaker wannabe.

 

[Pisces69]

No need left foot brake also can stop on time if he is alert. And I suppose he is new to manual cars and clutch in when he braked ?

 

I personally witness a BMW on lane 1 next to me at lane 2 on aye who got whacked in the rear by a lancer who was more than 5 car lengths when the BMW came to a stop. At that time which was evening peak hr , the traffic speed was ard 70km/h. The lancer did not even attempt to brake whom I guess was dreaming.

 

 

Maybe he tot he was driving e volvo s60 n was waiting fr e auto-brakes to activate.

[Nzy]

So maybe if everyone was observing e 1 car length fr every 10kmh, an accident wud hv been avoided?

 

 

What do u think?

 

Yup. But many people don't seem to agree. I keep around 10 car length at 100km/h. But if I see a faster car behind, I will try to get to the second lane as soon as I got the chance. So far have not been high beamed by any cars on lane 1.

[Hermitage]

Yup. But many people don't seem to agree. I keep around 10 car length at 100km/h. But if I see a faster car behind, I will try to get to the second lane as soon as I got the chance. So far have not been high beamed by any cars on lane 1.

 

Dat's da way to drive mate! Safe, but not Selfish

[Pisces69]

He was alert. His reaction time also quite fast. Just that at 100km/h with only 5 car lengths most ppl's reaction time is definitely not fast enough to do that. Just the movement of ur leg from accelerator pedal to the brake pedal already take up all of ur buffer of 5 car lengths.

 

I keep saying 10 car lengths fr 100kmh is e international standard to stop SAFELY but some pple here feel ty hv a better standard.

 

I guess ty need to hv a serious accident b4 ty realise ty r not Michael Shoemaker driving a F1 car.

 

 

[Hermitage]

It is very dangerous to cut in front of a car n jam brakes. Sud not b done unless u dont mind having yr rear end repaired.

 

It might also cause innocent drivers behind n to e side to b involved in an accident.

 

Agreed mate. If you believe in karma, what goes around comes around dude...

[Vhtfhwlego]

So maybe if everyone was observing e 1 car length fr every 10kmh, an accident wud hv been avoided?

 

 

What do u think?

If that u travel from Woodlands to PIE, the jam at peak hours is to MYS checkpt and maybe to KL.

If that u travel from Tampines to Town, need the airport runway to Q!

[Pisces69]

All this talk of safety distances and braking times do NOT detract from the fact that if there's a faster car behind you...GIVE WAY!!!

 

 

Well said fm a guy who drives a true sports car.

 

[Hermitage]

Well said fm a guy who drives a true sports car.

 

No lah, no lah...

 

Most here would say that I'm a dangerous driver

[Pisces69]

Yup. But many people don't seem to agree. I keep around 10 car length at 100km/h. But if I see a faster car behind, I will try to get to the second lane as soon as I got the chance. So far have not been high beamed by any cars on lane 1.

 

Then i rest my case.