Safe Overtaking

[Nzy]

Accidents are caused by 3 factors.

 

Road conditions, vehicle malfuction or driver error.

 

Which factor do you think caused the accident with your cousin?

 

Probably driver error only. Cuz he was tailgating. Only got 5 car length between him and the car infront. Much lesser than the 2s rule.

[Expertz]

ps arh. met a bugger on PIE this evening... WHOLE of lane 1 and 2 is clear (and i mean it's like 100-200m infront and behind), and he simply just stay on lane 1 at 95kmh throughout

 

honestly i've been guilty of this a few times

when i see that the road is clear and there are no cars around, i sometimes drift into the 1st lane and continue slowly on that lane

but if the driver behind gives me a courtesy flash, i'll immediately speed up if i can't get into lane 2, or i'll immediately filter into lane 2

 

i think its polite to give a courtesy flash, others might take it negatively though

[Expertz]

I am trying to say that 5 car length at 100km/h is not enough. Cuz that gives u only 0.8s to react. The 5 car length u keep is not ur stopping distance. Its the time that u take to react. So at 100km/h 5 car lengths is around 07-0.8s. So if u take more than 0.8s to react u will definitely rear end the front car already.

 

this is assuming that the car 5 car lengths infront of you has magical brakes and can stop immediately

else taking into consideration that cars don't have magical brakes, from the 5 car lengths plus the distance the car infront of you needs to stop, it'll become something like 10 or 15 car lengths

 

if you threw me out of the window and i accelerated to 100km/h, i think i'll be able to come to a complete stop in 8 car lengths using my shoes.

[Expertz]

Do not worry without ABS. You can DIY. Step hard onto the foot brake pedal. Release the foot from the foot brake pedal. Step hard onto the foot brake pedal again. Keep repeating this, and its about the same as ABS. ABS most useful when driver panicked, jammed brake and hold foot down even when car start to skid

 

when you are in an impending accident, releasing your brakes every split second will be the last thing on your mind!

[Cerano]

The volvos auto-braking system wil not prevent an accident.

 

It wil only slow down e car to reduce e imact of e accident unless e driver takes over n hits e brakes hard.

 

This technology sud b on many more cars in abt 10 years time. I think merc is also going to hv a similar system in their cars soon.

 

mercedes had this in 2004 already

 

now its on E-class standard and S-class and option on C-class

[Good-Carbuyer]

I am trying to say that 5 car length at 100km/h is not enough. Cuz that gives u only 0.8s to react. The 5 car length u keep is not ur stopping distance. Its the time that u take to react. So at 100km/h 5 car lengths is around 07-0.8s. So if u take more than 0.8s to react u will definitely rear end the front car already.

Someone else mentioned can be done with Kia Forte, but yet to share with us the literature he/she found/read about it

[Expertz]

Someone else mentioned can be done with Kia Forte, but yet to share with us the literature he/she found/read about it

that someone is me

to which my reply will be:

 

this is assuming that the car 5 car lengths infront of you has magical brakes and can stop immediately

else taking into consideration that cars don't have magical brakes, from the 5 car lengths plus the distance the car infront of you needs to stop, it'll become something like 10 or 15 car lengths

 

if you threw me out of the window and i accelerated to 100km/h, i think i'll be able to come to a complete stop in 8 car lengths using my shoes.

[Good-Carbuyer]

U don't understand what I am trying to say. He keep 5 car length. But he looks at 3-4 cars infront of him. Not the car directly infront of him only. Normally this method works. But for this accident he had no other cars to look at so could only rely on the brake lights of the car directly infront so didn't have time to react and brake in time.

You mean he hit the car in front because there was only one car in front of him? No idea how to avoid accident with such driving technique

[Good-Carbuyer]

Don't agree with the slow reaction part cuz thats average human reaction but the bad judgement yes. Cuz should not follow behind lorry. Don't know when something will just fall off.

I believe could be both

[Good-Carbuyer]

Don't agree with the slow reaction part cuz thats average human reaction but the bad judgement yes. Cuz should not follow behind lorry. Don't know when something will just fall off.

I believe could be both

[Good-Carbuyer]

Don't agree with the slow reaction part cuz thats average human reaction but the bad judgement yes. Cuz should not follow behind lorry. Don't know when something will just fall off.

I believe could be both

[Expertz]

I believe could be both

 

I believe could be both

 

I believe could be both

 

ya i get what you are saying, i agree with you too

[Good-Carbuyer]

when you are in an impending accident, releasing your brakes every split second will be the last thing on your mind!

I thought normal reaction would be to save/avoid accident. Ever encountered situation when I saved myself with cadence braking described earlier (not even in contact with any other vehicle around)

[Expertz]

I thought normal reaction would be to save/avoid accident. Ever encountered situation when I saved myself with cadence braking described earlier (not even in contact with any other vehicle around)

 

i was driving back on saturday nite when while filtering left into the exit from the expressway, a car came up from behind my blindspot and horned at me

so i swerved to the right to avoid an accident, in the process i lost control of my car!

it ended up going left, right, left, right until i finally lost enough speed to regain control or i finally got strong enough to control the steering wheel.

i can't even recall if i took my food off the accelerator at all...

pretty scary incident!

 

maybe braking without swerving might be a better idea lol

[Hermitage]

Do you want us to believe you got braking problem/lacks driving skill (laugh)

 

Do you want us to believe you keep to Lane 1 when Lane 2 is clear as well? If yes, I believe Lane 2 is a safer lane (laugh)

 

Do you want us to beileve that we understand what you are trying to say? (laugh)

[Hermitage]

No way most of the time. If there is another faster car behind, either its speeding (above speed limit), or I was in Lane 2. That car can use Lane 1 to overtake me?. If I was in Lane 1 overtaking Lane 2 car, no way I can keep left either (laugh). Driving skill important, too (laugh)

 

Errr...I really don't understand what you're trying to say dude. Just give way! No way? Give way. See? (laugh)

[Darryn]

that someone is me

to which my reply will be:

 

this is assuming that the car 5 car lengths infront of you has magical brakes and can stop immediately

else taking into consideration that cars don't have magical brakes, from the 5 car lengths plus the distance the car infront of you needs to stop, it'll become something like 10 or 15 car lengths

 

if you threw me out of the window and i accelerated to 100km/h, i think i'll be able to come to a complete stop in 8 car lengths using my shoes.

 

I think you're an idiot that needs to learn how to read, research and analyse information.

[Nzy]

that someone is me

to which my reply will be:

 

this is assuming that the car 5 car lengths infront of you has magical brakes and can stop immediately

else taking into consideration that cars don't have magical brakes, from the 5 car lengths plus the distance the car infront of you needs to stop, it'll become something like 10 or 15 car lengths

 

if you threw me out of the window and i accelerated to 100km/h, i think i'll be able to come to a complete stop in 8 car lengths using my shoes.

 

The 5 car lengths is not ur stopping distance. The 5 car length is ur reaction time. So if u got 5 car length at 100km/h. Assuming both cars have the same stopping distance, u have 0.8s to react and depress the brake pedal after seeing his brake lights. Otherwise u will hit him. Its not about how long is the stopping distance. Its the reaction time.