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Depends on how much you love photography. Bec your love for it will translate into a willingness to lug all the gear around.

 

I thought I wanted a DSLR until my photobug friend asked me to accompany him for half a day. He made me lug his gear. After 3 hours, I told him I gg for ILC.

I have always been SLR buff until i found Fuji X100. Sold off my D70s and only use Fuji X100. I might buy a DSLR in future when D300s replacement is out.

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i get the point. but ususally senery shots are taken when there is sunlight, and the senery dont move around, why need f2.8 [confused]

Agree to a certain extend. F2.8 is good for panning and candid portaits. But to take a shot of a landscape at night, when you don't have a tripod and flash will not help in anything, F2.8 will come in very handy (together wth a higher ISO setting). Also, quality of the lens is very important. Try a EF and EF-S lens with the same settings and you will know.

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very hard.......even in bright sunlight, i am using flash

 

Fill flash?

Wont it over expose most of the times if the background is bright?

 

Usually have to use manual settings to compensate.

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Fill flash?

Wont it over expose most of the times if the background is bright?

 

Usually have to use manual settings to compensate.

 

confirm wont. Just dial down the exposure compensation. in fact i get flash gun to blast forward directly at subject.

 

for eg, in bird park, background too sunny. by dailing down exp comp, effect becomes everything including the kid becomes "darker". Then chut direct forward flash. the flash only light up the subject and cannot light up the surronding one. viola, the subject and the surrounding got the same level of light.

 

my firend lagi expert. he meter for the sky or meter for the subject. chim stuff [sweatdrop]

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Agree to a certain extend. F2.8 is good for panning and candid portaits. But to take a shot of a landscape at night, when you don't have a tripod and flash will not help in anything, F2.8 will come in very handy (together wth a higher ISO setting). Also, quality of the lens is very important. Try a EF and EF-S lens with the same settings and you will know.

 

Options:

 

1) tripod + lens with lousy f

2) no tripod + lens with superb f

 

If only scenery, i rather option 1 because cheaper and can do HDR

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confirm wont. Just dial down the exposure compensation. in fact i get flash gun to blast forward directly at subject.

 

for eg, in bird park, background too sunny. by dailing down exp comp, effect becomes everything including the kid becomes "darker". Then chut direct forward flash. the flash only light up the subject and cannot light up the surronding one. viola, the subject and the surrounding got the same level of light.

 

my firend lagi expert. he meter for the sky or meter for the subject. chim stuff [sweatdrop]

 

usually i avoid direct flash.. cos it will make the subject's face look "flat"..

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I travelled with my old trusty Canon 17-40L.. good enough for general shooting.. :D

 

17-40L is a good lens, provided it's a sharp copy [:)] . You play with primes?

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17-40L is a good lens, provided it's a sharp copy [:)] . You play with primes?

 

Nope.. so far i only have this lens.. thinking of buying a 12-24 to play with.. but, replacing my aging 20D comes as top priority.. [laugh]

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it mostly depends on the len and i believe ILC is fine is not shooting for competition :D

 

Otherwise get a used DSLR ($500+) for play play and see if you like it. ILC also not cheap.

 

i beg to differ. in this aspect, the sensor should be the key distinguishing parameter.

 

1. size of sensor? afaik, most ILC are APS-C at most.

 

2. size of individual light sensing pixel. the larger the better.

 

3. quality of sensor. not all sensors are made to be the same in performance.

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Nope.. so far i only have this lens.. thinking of buying a 12-24 to play with.. but, replacing my aging 20D comes as top priority.. [laugh]

 

Change to 5D la, rest no need to consider ^_^

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i beg to differ. in this aspect, the sensor should be the key distinguishing parameter.

 

1. size of sensor? afaik, most ILC are APS-C at most.

 

2. size of individual light sensing pixel. the larger the better.

 

3. quality of sensor. not all sensors are made to be the same in performance.

 

 

but i always see Compact camera and ILC has better shot in low light, maybe for those few brands.

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I have always been SLR buff until i found Fuji X100. Sold off my D70s and only use Fuji X100. I might buy a DSLR in future when D300s replacement is out.

That's why I'm relating to the TS that you must really like photography. Otherwise, it will be a white elephant.

 

I want something I'm happy to bring along for a simple lunch gathering but still perform better than the typical P&S but without the bulk. I'm using the NEX-5N and I feel it will suit most casual users.

 

Unless the need for speed is the only criterion.

 

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with some photoshop, can lah. Next time please use a xmm as model [laugh] [laugh]

 

hard lah......

 

expert got: 70-200 f2.8. this one the boekh damm creamy

i got: 17-55 f2.8 bokeh not creamy

 

expert got: assistant to bring around off camera flash tripod, soft box......

i got: one man operation

 

expert got: kid to pose. Can keep taking until song.

i got: uncooperative kid. do the best with what i have

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Additional strength of DSLR...

The info LCD. It shows the current settings.

Direct access to frequently use setting by pressing a button and turn the dial.

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but i always see Compact camera and ILC has better shot in low light, maybe for those few brands.

 

i feel that point and shoots digital cameras have come a long way since the first digital camera appeared with a 1MP sensor using a 3.5" floppy diskette.

 

Today's point and shoots are highly augmented by very powerful processing chips onboard e.g. Canon's proprietary DIGIC processor. Therefore, low light performance and low light colour reproduction are now much better than before.

 

However if i take a photo using a Canon point and shoot as well as a Canon DSLR, both augmented by the same generation of DIGIC processor, i believe you can see a difference in terms of light performance.

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