Terrorist Group ISIS

[Watwheels]

It's disturbing to know that children are involved in such radicalization. Which means the next generation of young ppl are still at risk. There's little or no way to stop them from poisoning the children's mind.

[Wt_know]

make her happy? is bangla very good in telling joke? don't think so la ...

so bangla must have a unique "skillset" only second to staff69 that no one can compete ... lol

 

Another domestic helper Itchi Tuanini (Staff69 gf ah)was more stoic and looked forward. "I love my bangla boyfriend, he make me happy every weekend, but since my fellow maids say we must breakup or lose our jobs, I follow their idea. So sad I cannot see my hunny anymore. Maybe time to find China or Indian boyfriend."

Edited January 21, 2016 by Wt_know

[Loki]

well done ISA.

 

Seriously dunno how they went undercover and found more evidence. Impersonating a local radical still not too difficult. Impersonating a bangladesh radical.

 

 

ISD probably has informants among the community.  Don't think a local Singaporean will be able to gain the trust of the Banglas.  

[Lala81]

ISD probably has informants among the community.  Don't think a local Singaporean will be able to gain the trust of the Banglas.  

 

Well kudos to them having the foresight to set up such informant networks for the one day that it happens to be useful.

 

I mean terrorists don't drop out of the sky into our prisons. So i laud the effort and preparation taken to neutralise such threats.

Especially as these people tend to be secretive.

 

The indonesian terrorist. His brother says he was a good guy. Your own brother, doesn't know what's going on in your head.

[Goldbug]

still fuzzy and nobody knows man....

 

if they were AFTER they came to sg, i'll be very concerned as there are still a whole lot of radicals running around, ie FREE radicals

 

if before means ica need to beef up it's screening 

if after means there are subversive elements at large

[Weez911]

 

[Datsun366]

1. Can a terrorist be Radicalized? Superfluous at its best. Oh the England.

 

2. The ISD and home team working hard yo. Cheers!

 

3. Since this is a Car forum...enjoy.

 

http://youtu.be/yAIDqyi2XsM

 

Oh yeah, RT need RADx. Hah hah.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Datsun366

[ins1dious]

 

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I need a job like that... or like this

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Y52JHN-LA

[Loki]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/bangladeshis-in-singapore/2443708.html

[RadX]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/bangladeshis-in-singapore/2443708.html

 

 

I feel we are not that extreme to do such but the fear from these folk will be there. 

[Carnoob]

I think we just have to be more vigilant... the threat are very real... globalization is unstoppable so is radical ideology, it preys on the weak-minded.

 

All religion teaches man to be good, all scriptures (Buddhist sutra, Christian bible, Qur'an etc) are similar and DO NOT PROMOTE violence...

 

PEOPLE created terms like HOLY WAR (Christian Crusades), JIHAD for their gains, causing DEATH, ANGER and HATRED, these are not what the scriptures had stated or teaches.

 

It is sad that we are anchored with our own views but failed to realize that MAN created WARS, MAN created DIFFERENCES. It has nothing to do with religions.

 

The worst is growing of beard had become a SYMBOL of terrorism. How about Rabbi (Judaism) then?

 

 

We need to realize the actual threat is not the religion but the MAN who twisted the scriptures. Why was HE / SHE so successful (just like KH so successful with CHC) to convince people? To me, FAITH is to believe in DOING GOOD regardless of RACE, LANGUAGE or RELIGION. Do away with the stereotyping... Anyone can be radical if they choose to,   

[Atrecord]

The world is getting more dangerous to live in by the day. There were more wars when I was a kid (middle east, falklands, india/pakistan, india/china, cantral america, africans, cold, etc.), and these have now been replaced by terror attacks that first came into the forefront with 9/11.

 

Not sure why would a religion (i thought all religions should ultimately want to make human and the world better) preach killing others. If it's really a misinterpretation as is widely claimed, then the most respected person(s) in the religion should come out and clarify/denounce those deviant acts. This should follow with some concerted efforts of all 'legitimate' parties involved (govts, religious leaders) to weed out these crazy people. 

 

Instead, the countries/govts involved have been tolerant of them and allowing them to grow and perpetuate, and finally infiltrate the whole world to wreck havoc and create fear. For eg., would anyone in their right mind dare to go to Sabah for a holiday now, without the worry of being kidnapped and ultimately beheaded?

 

I certainly don't want my kids and parents to have to worry when getting around here in MRTs and shopping malls. 

 

While we must not see all Bangladeshis with colored eyes now, the authorities should step up their intelligence and weed out any more of such @#$%^&* in Singapore - and I'm pretty certain there should be more yet to be captured.

[Hydrocarbon]

On the flip side, the 27 represent a very very small percentage of Bangladeshi workers here and I would think most of them are peaceful and just want to get on with life and make a living.  Hope this incident does not make the public turn against ALL Bangladeshis working here.  After all, we have seen some of these workers go out of their way to help Singaporeans, even Singapore's stray cats.

 

There will be black sheep in every community. I don't think there's a need to fear / ostracize any of the Bangla nationals working in Singapore. If we do that and create separation in our country based on fear, very soon, the terrorist wouldn't need to do anything more than just help to radicalize people from different communities and make everyone fear each other.

 

Anyway, so far, almost every Bangla worker I've met will smile back and me when I smile at them, and some will even chit chat / say "Hi". That's way better than other more "atas" FTs in Singapore.

 

I think we just have to be more vigilant... the threat are very real... globalization is unstoppable so is radical ideology, it preys on the weak-minded.

 

All religion teaches man to be good, all scriptures (Buddhist sutra, Christian bible, Qur'an etc) are similar and DO NOT PROMOTE violence...

 

PEOPLE created terms like HOLY WAR (Christian Crusades), JIHAD for their gains, causing DEATH, ANGER and HATRED, these are not what the scriptures had stated or teaches.

 

It is sad that we are anchored with our own views but failed to realize that MAN created WARS, MAN created DIFFERENCES. It has nothing to do with religions.

 

The worst is growing of beard had become a SYMBOL of terrorism. How about Rabbi (Judaism) then?

 

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We need to realize the actual threat is not the religion but the MAN who twisted the scriptures. Why was HE / SHE so successful (just like KH so successful with CHC) to convince people? To me, FAITH is to believe in DOING GOOD regardless of RACE, LANGUAGE or RELIGION. Do away with the stereotyping... Anyone can be radical if they choose to,   

 

Much as I respect you for your other posts, I would have to disagree with on this.

 

On the surface, yes, most religions want to be seen to be peace loving. But going a little more in depth into two of the larger religions in the world, there are passages in their holy books calling for violence against those deemed to be "infidels".

 

Anyway, religions have been around for thousands of years, just the gods have changed. And, MCF isn't exactly the place to go in depth into religious discussions, so, I'll just say I disagree with your above post.

 

Cheers!

[RadX]

There will be black sheep in every community. I don't think there's a need to fear / ostracize any of the Bangla nationals working in Singapore. If we do that and create separation in our country based on fear, very soon, the terrorist wouldn't need to do anything more than just help to radicalize people from different communities and make everyone fear each other.

 

Anyway, so far, almost every Bangla worker I've met will smile back and me when I smile at them, and some will even chit chat / say "Hi". That's way better than other more "atas" FTs in Singapore.

 

 

Much as I respect you for your other posts, I would have to disagree with on this.

 

On the surface, yes, most religions want to be seen to be peace loving. But going a little more in depth into two of the larger religions in the world, there are passages in their holy books calling for violence against those deemed to be "infidels".

 

Anyway, religions have been around for thousands of years, just the gods have changed. And, MCF isn't exactly the place to go in depth into religious discussions, so, I'll just say I disagree with your above post.

 

Cheers!

 

 

good point bro.  Yes. lets please stick to the discussion at hand and not deviate into taboo areas lest this thread get locked

[Datsun366]

I think we just have to be more vigilant... the threat are very real... globalization is unstoppable so is radical ideology, it preys on the weak-minded.

 

All religion teaches man to be good, all scriptures (Buddhist sutra, Christian bible, Qur'an etc) are similar and DO NOT PROMOTE violence...

 

PEOPLE created terms like HOLY WAR (Christian Crusades), JIHAD for their gains, causing DEATH, ANGER and HATRED, these are not what the scriptures had stated or teaches.

 

It is sad that we are anchored with our own views but failed to realize that MAN created WARS, MAN created DIFFERENCES. It has nothing to do with religions.

 

The worst is growing of beard had become a SYMBOL of terrorism. How about Rabbi (Judaism) then?

 

download.jpg

 

We need to realize the actual threat is not the religion but the MAN who twisted the scriptures. Why was HE / SHE so successful (just like KH so successful with CHC) to convince people? To me, FAITH is to believe in DOING GOOD regardless of RACE, LANGUAGE or RELIGION. Do away with the stereotyping... Anyone can be radical if they choose to,

We can read your passion, but rather than rabbi, perhaps our Sikh brothers. We used to chase one around the bunk to verify if he really dua kee. He can really run. We never manage to catch him. We just chase him around.

 

1. Comparative religions aside, the background of the people of the religion impacts on its legacy. Alexander the Macedonian left a very bloody legacy, you kinda need very bloodthirsty people 40,000 versus 2,000,000...and win. He gave his Generals land what we now know as the ME.

 

2. What we think as doing good, is the same for the other guys, they think they are doing good by popping a pregnant woman because they are fighting for their people survival.

 

3. Remember the recent debacle between two toyotas, the mark x and estima? Both drivers are at fault for escalating into a full blown drama. You know in the states, when a guy cuts you off like that, it is empty your sidearm time. This is about driving in Singapore. When it is about race, religion and historical baggage...it's tough.

 

Stereotyping ... Will always exist. Makes life easier for humans. Thinking is hard work.

 

Chill pill.

 

 

Edited January 21, 2016 by Datsun366

[ins1dious]

Much as I respect you for your other posts, I would have to disagree with on this.

 

On the surface, yes, most religions want to be seen to be peace loving. But going a little more in depth into two of the larger religions in the world, there are passages in their holy books calling for violence against those deemed to be "infidels".

 

Anyway, religions have been around for thousands of years, just the gods have changed. And, MCF isn't exactly the place to go in depth into religious discussions, so, I'll just say I disagree with your above post.

 

Cheers!

 

This is a long post... please bear with me. Also might be a bit incendiary... if so... my bad...

 

I don't disagree with you per se... but the premise of the post by bro @Carnoob is correct. I agree with him... especially when it comes to prejudices formed by people... of physical aspects of those practicing their religion... people with beards etc. We should not give in to this.

 

I admit I too have my own prejudices when it concerns people of faith... as I have repeatedly stated in this forum... I'm always averse to any contribution from the House of Saud... here I am making a distinction between the ruling house of KSA and it's people. The Saudi's I've met in general, are fun loving, outgoing... can be prone to anger where it concerns honour (but who isn't?) but very generous. It's the austere interpretation of the religion that the hypocritical House of Saud preaches (but does not practice) that bugs me... and makes me afraid.

 

Buddhism and Jainism preaches with no mention of violence in its canons... but there are some nincompoops who have found text even there to create troubles for others... case in point... the Buddhist extremist in Sri Lanka and Myanmar. Really... that is a head scratcher for me... how to reconcile the non-violent ahimsa teaching of the Buddha with the senseless violence some of those monks instigated 

 

Religion is personal. If I'm going to go to hell, that's up to me and my maker. 

 

But we should avoid all types of prejudices... judging people by the actions, skin, race, religion or economic background. It's really silly to generalise on that basis... as silly as saying;

 

Majority of taxi drivers are fcking inconsiderate drivers... all taxi drivers are Singaporean... ergo majority of Singaporeans are fcking inconsiderate.

 

That's a pretty dumb assessment. Sorry I digress... back to topic...

 

Setting someone aside because of his conviction in his religion is just misunderstanding his religion. But the times these text were  handed down was different... and we have also evolved.

 

Trouble comes when we don't keep with the times... and when some idiots insist that it can only be their way or the highway for the rest of the people. 

 

So why this long post... I noted a small prejudice in your post... which is only partly true... as all three books are branches of the same tree... they are equally forgiving and equally violent. Only difference is the message we take away from them. The majority of us have moved away from the barbaric times... I sure hope the rest of the deluded do so soon.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STz2FrpZnpw

 

I think I may be hearing from the Undertaker for this post 

[Jamesc]

Thank our lucky stars they are all Bangladeshis.

 

Hence the talking talking talking about doing 

 

something bad since 2013.

 

If it was another group they might have done

 

it by now.

 

 

[Jamesc]

I really hope they have not impregnated their evil ideas

 

and planted millions of evil intentions in their maid girlfriends.

 

The last thing we want is terror in our homes.

 

Imagine your favourite shirt getting iron burnt marks

 

and finding extra ingredients in your food or

 

a nasty surprise waiting for you on your bed sheets.

 

This will really be terror ible

 

as these are the things

 

I am really terror fied of.  

 

Edited January 21, 2016 by Jamesc