Ender Hypersonic May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 The boy will probably not even go to jail so that 3 weeks is so not worth it. Amos may be sentenced. Bu probably offset by the days he was remanded, so he can be released on the day of sentence. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 Amos may be sentenced. Bu probably offset by the days he was remanded, so he can be released on the day of sentence. Will sure add hundreds of hours in community service 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ictruall 5th Gear May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 Amos may be sentenced. Bu probably offset by the days he was remanded, so he can be released on the day of sentence. facts are and knowing him.......you can expect that he will be in front of the judge again on the same old story shortly following his release , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 Don't know if really was another slapping situation quite many years back and if the old bro's can remember in SGP where one ministar slapped another at Temasek Tour?? over disagreements and today all are high puppies except the slappee and another one whom are in private sector now. Of course Ah Kong intervened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 This articles portrays him like any other teenager. Soften my view on Amos, particularly when he said he likes Stanley Kubrick, I think Clockwork Orange could be his favorite movie, instead of Space Odyssey..Agree with the writer we should leave him alone and let him exhaust himself, he may grow any working adult or else he may ended up with the Roy and gang, jobless and making protest depending on donation for a living. https://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/comment--a-conversation-with-amos-yee-and-family-090836714.html COMMENT: A conversation with Amos Yee and familylfian Sa'at is a writer, playright and poet based in Singapore. He is the resident playwright at W!LD RICE. The views expressed are his own. By Alfian Sa'at I wasn't planning on writing about Amos Yee, but I'm quite upset by the way the media is painting him—with insinuations that he might fall within the autism spectrum, that he is so psychologically disturbed that he needs psychiatric evaluation, that there is something about his behaviour that might be 'abnormal'. I had the pleasure of having supper with Amos and his family. The mother, Mary Yee, is a twinkly-eyed lady who would lean in to listen to you speak. She looked perpetually curious and attentive, her head craning around even as she hugged her floral tote bag close to her. One could speculate that she's passed on some of that inquisitiveness to her only child. "You know Amos wanted to change his name?" she told us. "Why?" "Because his full name is Amos Yee Pang Sang. And in school the kids used to tease him and called him 'Anus Yee Pang Sai'. You know 'pang sai' in Hokkien means to 'pass motion'." I wanted to ask if he had wanted to change the name 'Amos', or 'Pang Sang', or both. But I took a quick glance at Amos, who was scowling, and spotted the thought bubble over his head that said, 'Mum, please, don't embarrass me in front of these people'. So I left it at that. The father, Alphonsus Yee, was a bit more reserved, a burly man who rides a motorcycle and who would stand around with his arms crossed, palms cupping his elbows. It seemed to me that the mother still thought of her son's antics as an enduring source of mystery, whereas the father had reached his limit with such unsolvable enigmas. I tried to break the ice with the father by saying, "I think your son is very intelligent." And the father said wearily, “Yes, he's intelligent. But he's not wise.” And what about Amos himself? He's a waif of a teenager, very pale, with painfully narrow shoulders, and it seemed as if his shock of unruly hair was an attempt to add some mass to a wispy frame. He had a habit of stroking his chin before he spoke, which I found quite endearing, because chin-stroking is the aspirational gesture of kids who want to be taken seriously—as intellectuals. I asked Amos who his favourite film director was. “I love Stanley Kubrick,” he said. “Yeah? He’s good, but I wasn’t too sold on Barry Lyndon,” I said. “It’s too mannered for me.” “Oh, but have you watched it twice?” “So it rewards repeat viewing?” “I guarantee.” Amos has very strong opinions; and honestly he reminded me of a precocious teenager—self-possessed, intensely loyal to things he loved, but not to the point where he would shut himself from discovering other works. “If you love 2001: A Space Odyssey,” I said, “You should check out Solaris by Tarkovsky.” “You mean there’s a sci-fi film that’s as good as Space Odyssey?” “Maybe even better. I guarantee.” He nodded, and stroked that chin again. And then we got to the subject of the video. I told him, “I agreed with what you said about LKY, but did you really have to mention Christians? You could have made your point just by saying that those fawning and swooning over him acted like they were part of a cult.” “But all religions are cults.” “Okay, then why pick on Christians? You could have said something about religious fervour without being so specific about it.” “But Christianity is the religion I know best.” And there it was. ‘But’, the favourite word of any mouthy teenager who thinks that adults, with their unexamined conventions, are vaguely ridiculous. “And how about all that swearing,” I said, putting on my fuddy-duddy hat. “What if it turned people off from the substance of what you were saying?” “But that’s just how I express myself. I'm being true to myself.” “You have to ask yourself if it’s essential to your message. I think you make your videos to communicate something to your audience. I understand your need to be authentic, but sometimes your audience trips up on the expletives and they’ll stop listening.” “But sometimes swearing is the message itself.” “Yes Amos, I’ve watched enough Scorcese and Tarantino to know that.” “And those are great examples!” I smiled and didn’t tell him that he was as far away from a gangster or hitman as anyone could imagine. And then the subject turned to remand and jail. Amos said, “Why should we worry about jail? Look at Mandela, he fought for a righteous cause and he went to jail too.” At which point Ivan Heng, who was at the table, rolled his eyes and said, “Darling, you’re not Mandela. So in the meantime you just stay out of trouble.” Amos looked a little chastened, and I could see that he was aware that the analogy he offered risked making him out as someone with delusions of grandeur. Glen Goei, who was at the table as well (supper was on him), said, “Maybe you’re not afraid for yourself. But think about your parents. Don’t you think they’ll worry if you go to jail?” “But we can’t always live our lives based on what our parents might think of us.” “We’re just asking you to put yourself in their shoes,” Glen said. Amos stroked his chin again. I could see a retort simmering—“if I were a parent I’d want my child to act according to his conscience…to live as a free and principled human being…to have the moral courage to stand by his actions.” But Amos held his peace. So here’s my take on this whole absurd affair: Amos Yee, as a teenager, is as normal as they come. They chafe at authority, will always look for wriggle room and bargaining leverage, have a sharp instinct for pointing out adult contradictions and hypocrisies, and speak in a language of ‘but’s’ and ‘why not’s’ that are designed to try your patience. Any attempt to 'discipline' him becomes a contest of wills; you can slap bail conditions on him but if he thinks they are unfairly punitive (even before any conviction) then you can expect brinksmanship and defiance. With teenagers like these, you can try reasoning with them but you must also be prepared to confront the idea that your reason is actually unreasonable. What is abnormal is that because of the charges against him, all this is being played out on a much larger stage. And this I think is the tragedy of the whole thing: when a brat acts up—and of course Amos can be taunting and bratty—the best thing that you can do is to ignore him and let him exhaust himself. But no, some people decided to get all sanctimonious, and we end up with the sorry spectacle of an adult smacking a child mercilessly in a shopping aisle. We don’t think of the child as being uncontrollable at that moment; no, it is the adult who has lost all self-control. And this is how it looks like to me—the people who filed those police reports, the 8 policemen who arrested Amos at his house, the AGC, the man who smacked Amos outside the State Courts, Bertha Henson, Lionel de Souza, the journalists who keep misreporting the case—all of you look so violent, hysterical, foolish and feeble. In trying to solve a 'problem' like Amos Yee you've only ended up displaying your own problems and neuroses--your pettiness, your cruelty, your beastliness, your insecurity--in all their garish detail. This article was originally published as a Facebook status. It is reproduced here with the permission of its original creator. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 which one?? the Mahathir one?? check out the picture i donno about you guys but when i saw it the first thing i was thinking was whoa! machiam bdsm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 3 weeks' jail for slapping blogger Amos Yee Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noalcohol 1st Gear May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 他是聪明, 但是没智慧 不知错 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 A slap is not just a slap, a punch is not just a punch. In this case it was premeditated, he had it planned and waited outside the courts for Amos to turn up. He slapped someone that was already being dealt with by the legal system. Basically he never give face to our legal system. Very different from a slap in the heat of an argument, when being provoked or when under the influence of alcohol. Both are technically wrong of course. But we cannot have vigilantes hanging around outside the courts waiting to attack defendants, or else everyday will have video to see. At least he has balls compared to the countless online folks (this thread included) who spew hatred and claimed Amos should be taught a lesson. But talk only 😂😂😂 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leinad8919 Turbocharged May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 At least he has balls compared to the countless online folks (this thread included) who spew hatred and claimed Amos should be taught a lesson. But talk only 😂😂😂 Yes. Talk is so cheap here in MCF that we can afford to pay full cash 😂😂😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 At least he has balls compared to the countless online folks (this thread included) who spew hatred and claimed Amos should be taught a lesson. But talk only 😂😂😂 Amos is no better what. He also talk & whine a lot. See where the talking got him into? As if he achieved something. Maybe he thought he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 This articles portrays him like any other teenager. Soften my view on Amos, particularly when he said he likes Stanley Kubrick, I think Clockwork Orange could be his favorite movie, instead of Space Odyssey.. Agree with the writer we should leave him alone and let him exhaust himself, he may grow any working adult or else he may ended up with the Roy and gang, jobless and making protest depending on donation for a living. These people who met amos together with Roy all have their agenda capitalizing on his 'misfortune'. What he mean he agree with amos on what he said about LKY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 These people who met amos together with Roy all have their agenda capitalizing on his 'misfortune'. I think they are the different. The writer and his gang are in the arts and musical scene. Ivan Heng and Glen Goei are there. If any protest they in, they are for LGBT right rather than CPF. And definitely have better dress sense than Roy and gang. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Amos is no better what. He also talk & whine a lot. See where the talking got him into? As if he achieved something. Maybe he thought he did. Wasn't my point to compare who talks and whines a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boringchap Turbocharged May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) This articles portrays him like any other teenager. Soften my view on Amos, particularly when he said he likes Stanley Kubrick, I think Clockwork Orange could be his favorite movie, instead of Space Odyssey.. Agree with the writer we should leave him alone and let him exhaust himself, he may grow any working adult or else he may ended up with the Roy and gang, jobless and making protest depending on donation for a living. Don't forget that Alfian Saat is a master playright and you just read his play. In looking at this case, we have to consider the wider public consequences of leaving Amos alone. If Amos is not dealt with under the law, then tomorrow you may have a hundred flowers blooming. The key issue is whether there ought to be such a law. Parliament can always change the law if the people think that the law is not useful. Edited May 12, 2015 by Boringchap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 He seems relaxed and happy. Verdict later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabian Turbocharged May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 These people who met amos together with Roy all have their agenda capitalizing on his 'misfortune'. What he mean he agree with amos on what he said about LKY? I also wonder... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boringchap Turbocharged May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/playwright-alfian-saat-questions-lky-legacy-20150327 See the above link. Alfian Saat questions the legacy of Mr LKY. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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