Beware of scammers

[Kb27]

LOL, Sunday morning, my relac time...don't want to play with them lah..

 

hmm...I think maybe next time should just put the phone one side and let them talk, talk..talk.

[Adrianli]

hmm...I think maybe next time should just put the phone one side and let them talk, talk..talk.

 

I did that when they called me again with regards to "my DHL" parcel. They will repeat the automated message twice, I did not press any button or reply. It automatically hang up.

[Nzy]

Does it help with recovery if PayPal is involved? Nowadays a lot of people buying things online.

 

Yeah. It does. Paypal usually holds the funds for a period of time first so you will have some time to dispute the payments and they will hold it until investigations are completed. But I think it only works if you are buying something. For transferring money, I don't think it works the same way.

[Vratenza]

Just got another one... This time is DHL.... 

Did not know my helper start a parcel redistribution center at my home...  Better go back ask her. 

[RadX]

Just got another one... This time is DHL.... 

Did not know my helper start a parcel redistribution center at my home...  Better go back ask her. 

 

 

eh you so free ah

 

do this...hahahha

 

 

http://mothership.sg/2016/06/bank-of-china-tries-to-scam-singapore-man-gets-mercilessly-trolled-instead/

[Vratenza]

Not as free as you oh Mr 18-incher!

 

But your wish is my command. I hope they text me soon... 

eh you so free ah

 

do this...hahahha

 

 

http://mothership.sg/2016/06/bank-of-china-tries-to-scam-singapore-man-gets-mercilessly-trolled-instead/

 

[Blueray]

DHL.

 

Automated message in Chinese.

[Jamesc]

Copy Rolex Datejusts Watches 18k & SS Gray Dial Bar Hour Markers [f054] - $212.00 : Professional replica watches stores, men-watches.cc

 

 

Do you have fake Casio?

 

I prefer those.

 

[Jamesc]

 

 

The fake lorex at the bottom

 

I think they forgot to put the numbers.

 

[Jman888]

The fake lorex at the bottom

 

I think they forgot to put the numbers.

 

 

 

please delete the quote of this scammer's post, too many photos and links.

[Scion]

sad thing is... there are suckers born every minute

 

these scammers just need to have a 1% success rate

[Blueray]

Phone scammers cheat elderly woman out of $100,000

An elderly woman lost $100,000 in savings to phone scammers; and her daughter is partly blaming it on a new type of bank machine that allows up to $200,000 in cash to be drawn in one go.

 

Called Branch Machines (BM), the machines were introduced last year by DBS Bank in 14 of its branches.

They look like an Automated Teller Machine (ATM) and allow customers to carry out banking transactions such as cash deposit and withdrawal with help from its staff.

Up to $200,000 in cash can be taken out from a BM in one transaction and there is no daily withdrawal limit. For DBS/POSB ATMs, the maximum amount per transaction is $2,000 and its default daily withdrawal limit is $3,000 (see table).

The woman had gone to a BM to take out $100,000 in cash on April 19 and another $100,000 two days later upon instruction from scammers.

Earlier this month, the police said more than $4 million have been lost by victims of phone scams since March, in the more than 50 reports that they have received.

The victims got calls from scammers impersonating overseas officials, telling them that parcels containing illegal items had been shipped in their names.

Mrs C. Ong, 45, said her mother started getting such calls at home from April.

They claimed to be from the Chinese police and told the 78-year-old that she was being investigated for corruption. The scammers told her to buy a mobile phone so they could contact her directly. They asked for personal information and warned her against informing anyone.

Worried for her family's safety, she visited the nearby POSB branch at Marine Parade and was directed to a machine for cash withdrawal.

Remittance firm sounded alert on large withdrawal

She took out $100,000 in cash and proceeded to a remittance agency in City Plaza to transfer the money to an account with the Bank of China, Beijing West Branch.

Two days later, she was pressured by the scammers to do another transfer so she went back to the same bank branch to take out another $100,000 from the BM.

She went to another remittance agency after the first agency declined to do a second transfer, saying the amount was too large over a short period of time.

The second remittance agency saw the huge amount of money and called her daughter, Mrs Ong, for verification.

That was when the family found out about the scam and made a police report.

"While we grieve at the loss of a huge sum of money to scammers and are working on my mother's emotional and mental aftercare, we hope the bank will tighten its processes in order to protect the vulnerable elderly," said Mrs Ong, a school administrator. "She performed two very unusual transactions, withdrawing $100,000 each time within three days, yet no alerts were raised or even a call made to the joint account holder to verify it."

Mrs Ong said alarm bells should have started ringing as her mother's largest withdrawal from POSB is $5,000 over the counter or less than $1,000 from the ATMs.

"It is very shocking that a remittance agent is able to spot an unusual transaction that POSB was not able to. I am also puzzled why there were no withdrawal limits in place at the machine."

Mrs Ong said she reported the matter to the bank and the Monetary Authority of Singapore.

They said they will investigate and that she had the option of going to the Financial Industry Disputes Resolution Centre for independent arbitration.

In response, a DBS spokesman said further customer authentication, such as querying the reasons for withdrawal, by its staff is required for large cash withdrawals via BMs. POSB is a subsidiary of DBS Group.

"The process is no different than if a customer makes the withdrawal via our branch counters," she said.

In the case of Mrs Ong's mother, the bank spokesman said its staff had engaged her both times. Each time she was queried, she said the cash was for home renovation.

Its staff recommended that she withdraw the funds in a cashier's order or a cheque.

An order would allow the bank to identify the beneficiary of the funds, which may have served as a red flag, while cheques can be transacted only locally and there is a delay in encashing it.

The bank said she insisted on a cash withdrawal. Said a bank spokesman: "According to our video footage and the four staff members who spoke to her, the customer was calm and composed in her interactions with our staff and showed no signs of duress.

"On the first occasion, our staff also expressed concern over her carrying such a large sum of money and were told by the customer that a family member would meet her outside the branch."

In response, Mrs Ong said the staff who attended to her mother were Malay and could not communicate well with her mother, who spoke mainly Mandarin.

She added: "Being stressed, she wasn't able to process and understand the information."

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/phone-scammers-cheat-elderly-woman-out-of-100000

[Ktglfc]

One person loss is another person (scammer)'s gain ...

 

But really hope more ppl can be aware of this kind of scam, and be educated enough not to fall prey to these ...

 

If in doubt, put down the phone and call a very close family member to enquire and counter-check ...

[Vratenza]

The Mrs C. Ong seem hell-bent on putting the blame on DBS/POSB.....

 

From what I read, seem like DBS/POSB staff did their due diligence.

 

If anything is to be blamed, it should be Mrs C. Ong. If she had opened a joint account with the mother and set the withdrawal limit without double signatories to be 2K, such an incident would not have happened.

 

Seem like she knew that chances of her getting the $100K back from the PRC scammer is zero, now trying her luck with getting something from DBS/POSB.

 

 

Phone scammers cheat elderly woman out of $100,000

An elderly woman lost $100,000 in savings to phone scammers; and her daughter is partly blaming it on a new type of bank machine that allows up to $200,000 in cash to be drawn in one go.

 

Called Branch Machines (BM), the machines were introduced last year by DBS Bank in 14 of its branches.

They look like an Automated Teller Machine (ATM) and allow customers to carry out banking transactions such as cash deposit and withdrawal with help from its staff.

Up to $200,000 in cash can be taken out from a BM in one transaction and there is no daily withdrawal limit. For DBS/POSB ATMs, the maximum amount per transaction is $2,000 and its default daily withdrawal limit is $3,000 (see table).

The woman had gone to a BM to take out $100,000 in cash on April 19 and another $100,000 two days later upon instruction from scammers.

Earlier this month, the police said more than $4 million have been lost by victims of phone scams since March, in the more than 50 reports that they have received.

The victims got calls from scammers impersonating overseas officials, telling them that parcels containing illegal items had been shipped in their names.

Mrs C. Ong, 45, said her mother started getting such calls at home from April.

They claimed to be from the Chinese police and told the 78-year-old that she was being investigated for corruption. The scammers told her to buy a mobile phone so they could contact her directly. They asked for personal information and warned her against informing anyone.

Worried for her family's safety, she visited the nearby POSB branch at Marine Parade and was directed to a machine for cash withdrawal.

Remittance firm sounded alert on large withdrawal

She took out $100,000 in cash and proceeded to a remittance agency in City Plaza to transfer the money to an account with the Bank of China, Beijing West Branch.

Two days later, she was pressured by the scammers to do another transfer so she went back to the same bank branch to take out another $100,000 from the BM.

She went to another remittance agency after the first agency declined to do a second transfer, saying the amount was too large over a short period of time.

The second remittance agency saw the huge amount of money and called her daughter, Mrs Ong, for verification.

That was when the family found out about the scam and made a police report.

"While we grieve at the loss of a huge sum of money to scammers and are working on my mother's emotional and mental aftercare, we hope the bank will tighten its processes in order to protect the vulnerable elderly," said Mrs Ong, a school administrator. "She performed two very unusual transactions, withdrawing $100,000 each time within three days, yet no alerts were raised or even a call made to the joint account holder to verify it."

Mrs Ong said alarm bells should have started ringing as her mother's largest withdrawal from POSB is $5,000 over the counter or less than $1,000 from the ATMs.

"It is very shocking that a remittance agent is able to spot an unusual transaction that POSB was not able to. I am also puzzled why there were no withdrawal limits in place at the machine."

Mrs Ong said she reported the matter to the bank and the Monetary Authority of Singapore.

They said they will investigate and that she had the option of going to the Financial Industry Disputes Resolution Centre for independent arbitration.

In response, a DBS spokesman said further customer authentication, such as querying the reasons for withdrawal, by its staff is required for large cash withdrawals via BMs. POSB is a subsidiary of DBS Group.

"The process is no different than if a customer makes the withdrawal via our branch counters," she said.

In the case of Mrs Ong's mother, the bank spokesman said its staff had engaged her both times. Each time she was queried, she said the cash was for home renovation.

Its staff recommended that she withdraw the funds in a cashier's order or a cheque.

An order would allow the bank to identify the beneficiary of the funds, which may have served as a red flag, while cheques can be transacted only locally and there is a delay in encashing it.

The bank said she insisted on a cash withdrawal. Said a bank spokesman: "According to our video footage and the four staff members who spoke to her, the customer was calm and composed in her interactions with our staff and showed no signs of duress.

"On the first occasion, our staff also expressed concern over her carrying such a large sum of money and were told by the customer that a family member would meet her outside the branch."

In response, Mrs Ong said the staff who attended to her mother were Malay and could not communicate well with her mother, who spoke mainly Mandarin.

She added: "Being stressed, she wasn't able to process and understand the information."

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/phone-scammers-cheat-elderly-woman-out-of-100000

 

 

[Blueray]

The Mrs C. Ong seem hell-bent on putting the blame on DBS/POSB.....

 

From what I read, seem like DBS/POSB staff did their due diligence.

 

If anything is to be blamed, it should be Mrs C. Ong. If she had opened a joint account with the mother and set the withdrawal limit without double signatories to be 2K, such an incident would not have happened.

 

Seem like she knew that chances of her getting the $100K back from the PRC scammer is zero, now trying her luck with getting something from DBS/POSB.

 

yeah, banks very on when it comes to large amounts cos of AML.

[Mustank]

yeah, banks very on when it comes to large amounts cos of AML.

 

AMDL?

[Sunny]

quite sad to hear news about victim losing a lot of $ to scammers

 

should put $ under bed like @enye

wont kana conned by phone scam

[Vratenza]

Beg to differ leh.....

 

$ under bed, lagi easier to con, the POSB auntie would have jit tao lose $200K or even $500K to the phone scam liao.

 

quite sad to hear news about victim losing a lot of $ to scammers

 

should put $ under bed like @enye

wont kana conned by phone scam