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10th Generation Honda Civic (2016)

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Baal

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Saw the article on 10th gen Civic Hatchback from UK is more interesting.

1.5TC is producing 201hp on hatchback type (replica of Type R)

1.0TC (3 cylinder) is producing 127hp

PI should get from UK sure selling fast. This is so wonderful now

Being a HB fan.  I will sarpork if I still have $.....haha

 

Always loved the design of the euro civic.

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MQX87511

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If the current outgoing civic is still selling at 120+, I suspect the price of new civic is going to be steep.

Highly possible in the 140+ range, similar range with Mz6 2.5, and perhaps 20K lower than Accord.

Honestly, at this range, there are many options available.

actually in 140+k range, no much value for money sedan option,

it even cannot reach conti brands (Audi, B&M, Volvo) low end and entrance level, only can buy some US middle level brands such as Ford focus, Chevrolet Cruz etc, otherwise SUV a lot from Jap/Kor

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Since when has Honda Civic been priced lower than Altis or Mazda 3 ?  It won't happen.  Look at the price of Honda Accord compare to Camry and Mazda 6.  Honda price is always highest among Jap cars in the same class.

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If the current outgoing civic is still selling at 120+, I suspect the price of new civic is going to be steep.

Highly possible in the 140+ range, similar range with Mz6 2.5, and perhaps 20K lower than Accord.

Honestly, at this range, there are many options available.

Given that HD always hang up to sell, high chance they will price it at/close to Jap 2.5L NA.

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Really sad about the CVT on the turbo model. Even sadder when there is no paddle shifters

POA?  Heard that a mcfer did that for the Jazz 1.5.  IIrc, deposit required is double.  = 20k.

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Really sad about the CVT on the turbo model. Even sadder when there is no paddle shifters

no choice, want good FC, have to sacrifice fun :D  

in future all automakers may go this direction

want driving fun, go for Type R, if $$ not issue, Japanese maker exactly segregate sport cars and family cars

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Enye

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high price is a given for KM

 

but the turbo chibic is honda fan boys' wet dream come true

 

:D

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Since when has Honda Civic been priced lower than Altis or Mazda 3 ?  It won't happen.  Look at the price of Honda Accord compare to Camry and Mazda 6.  Honda price is always highest among Jap cars in the same class.

Ya, during freak coe days, even the FIT 1.3 was priced like Lancer Ex 1.5.

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Really sad about the CVT on the turbo model. Even sadder when there is no paddle shifters

 

any point in having paddle shifters on a CVT transmission?

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no choice, want good FC, have to sacrifice fun :D  

in future all automakers may go this direction

 

Honda is developing a 8DCT.  Think its wet.

The diff is that for moving off, presumeably for gear 1 only or at most 1 & 2, it will be matched to a torque converter.  Then from 2nd or 3rd all the way to 8th, it will be the typical DCT style hydralically operated clutch.    This way, it circumvents the jerkiness associated with DCTs when driving in stop & go/crawling traffic, while having the full DCT direct feel, minimal power loss during non-jammy conditions.

 

Problem, its for use with large displacement engines.  I read it was for some Acura SUV.  2.4 TC.  Thing the engine is coded K24.  If its NA engine, probably only for the 3.5 V6 as seen on the previous accord sold in Sg.

 

EarthDReam CVT have 3 specs.

 

1) Small - ATV, Kei cars, & small cars up to 1000cc.

2) Mid - based on NA spec.  for displacement 1.2 to 1.8 litre.

3) Large (by jdm standards) - 2.0 - 2.4 liter NA.

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That 1litre TC at 127hp falls nicely into out Cat A so I'll be surprised if Kah doesn't bring this in as well though the main model should be the 1.5l TC.

So Cat A = Euro spec HB 1.0 TC.

 

Cat B = U.S spec Sedan 1.5 TC.

 

If they have these 2 & priced not too outragously, they have chance to stage a comeback.

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opps im probably too sad and started blabbering rubbish  :TT_TT:

Not necessarily, the paddles do help to make it easier to reach the switchover point at 4k rpm.  Especially when its CVT & not AT.

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So Cat A = Euro spec HB 1.0 TC.

 

Cat B = U.S spec Sedan 1.5 TC.

 

If they have these 2 & priced not too outragously, they have chance to stage a comeback.

 

Agreed and that's why I posted earlier that this model could be the model to make or break them.

If Kah is serious about regaining the no. 1 spot which they held years back, they have to bring both models in to cater for the borderline buyers (1litre) and the die-hards (1.5litre).

 

Then Altis and Mz3 can stand aside but priced wrongly and it will be a nail into their coffin!!

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Agreed and that's why I posted earlier that this model could be the model to make or break them.

If Kah is serious about regaining the no. 1 spot which they held years back, they have to bring both models in to cater for the borderline buyers (1litre) and the die-hards (1.5litre).

 

Then Altis and Mz3 can stand aside but priced wrongly and it will be a nail into their coffin!!

die-hards should go for Type R, :D

Civic launched good for consumers, Altis and Mz3 have to down price further to protect their territory

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Agreed and that's why I posted earlier that this model could be the model to make or break them.

If Kah is serious about regaining the no. 1 spot which they held years back, they have to bring both models in to cater for the borderline buyers (1litre) and the die-hards (1.5litre).

 

Then Altis and Mz3 can stand aside but priced wrongly and it will be a nail into their coffin!!

 

suspect KM would have difficulty getting inventory for the new civics

 

probably will go for margin to milk the fan boys rather than market share

 

:D

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