A Rant on Shell Petrol

[Luvalive]

No lah. I think your comparison isn't fair when everyone else is driving a different car dan yours. Furthermore you are restricting yourself to using a brand of fuel. If you want to know spend money on other brands and different RON dan you will know. Plus you have to drive like your pants is on fire or else driving sedately will give you no difference whatsoever. See what I mean.

 

The recommended RON is such that you won't go wrong and your engine doesn't suffer from engine knocking or engine pre-ignition. In short the compressed air/fuel mixture self ignite before the spark plug releases a spark to set of the ignition in the combustion chamber. That's knocking.

 

The higher RON what it does is stabilizes the air/fuel mixture so that it doesn't go off on its own. So if the engine in your car has a compression ratio of say 10:1 the recommended is likely to be RON95. Most Japanese cars are 9:1 or some even lower at 8:1, RON 92 also no problem. Turbocharged engines or high compression ratio engine will usually need a higher RON to run. It's all depending on the compression ratio.

 

So if you ask if other cars feel the same as you do it's difficult to give an answer. One is that ppl do not drive the same cars and different ppl have a different driving behaviour. For ppl who have to worry about paying for petrol that one needless to say the cheapest will suffice they won't know what difference the brands or the higher RON does.

 

If you ask in such a general manner you will not get what you want to know. You will have to set the conditions, speed, mileage, route, etc etc. Different car with different engine will give different result.

 

Price of course you cannot compare with M'sia where their govt give subsidies while ours are taxed more. You have to know the price of rice when you eat rice. You rant w/o first finding out why is what most ppl do. Kpkb first.

 

 

 

Now that a lot of car makers are using turbocharged engines and ppl are increasing the turbo boost via modification. It's important that they switch to a higher RON to prevent engine knock.

 

Ppl always get the wrong idea that premium fuel means better. You got to first look at whether your car needs it and the way you drive it to choose the RON that suits your driving needs.

 

Wah thanks for the response, I would have praised you but I run out of points liao. Will do so tomorrow.

 

Thanks also because I learnt about the compression ratio today, never paid attention to those things when I read about it on Torque mag.

 

Appreciate your response, especially the part whereby I should try the brands myself because everyone is different.

 

I think there are many people who finds it weird that I rant about Shell when it's paid for by the company, reason is my company gives me a fuel card for $450 and does not entitle me to any discounts - meaning, I pump at the pump price.

 

Generally I visit the pumps once every 4 days for about 50 litres, so on average I will pay another $200 out of my pocket for fuel.

 

Now that I have tried RON 97, I just want to find out if SPC's RON 98 is any good.

 

Because if SPC 98 is cheaper yet comparable to say, Esso or Shell, or Caltex, then it's really a no brainer.

 

But if SPC 98 is cheaper because it is indeed inferior, then I should reweigh my options.

 

Yes, I can solve my own problems by trying out the different fuels myself. What I am trying to do is to gather the intelligence of the members here so that I don't have to walk the 冤枉路, so to speak.

 

By the way, I can pass my card to someone who pumps Shell, hence this discussion.

[Benarsenal]

Wah, you drive what car, pump every 4 days? Xiong sia.

[Luvalive]

Wah, you drive what car, pump every 4 days? Xiong sia.

 

My car is the RAV4. It's not too bad, but I work in sales and drive alot everyday. Haha!

 

[RadX]

i gave up on shell AFTER citi also gave crap % of dividends

 

now on to Esso. Once in a while if 98 same as vpowder, like yesterday, I'll head to siham

[Count-Bracula]

I only pump cowtex 'cos the rest will give my baby a tummy ache . . . can feel the car sluggish and slightly unresponsive.

[Kar_lover]

I have been a faithful user of Shell, partly because my company sponsors me a fuel card that happens to be by Shell. Shell has also been always active in their marketing, making me feel that Shell is indeed a superior and reputable fuel brand.

 

As such I have never really taken notice on Shell's pump prices, or for that matter, compares it with Esso, Caltex or SPC.

 

I was in Malaysia yesterday and pumped Petronas 97 at RM2.35 a litre. Man, their fuel is quite good - made my 2006 RAV4 2.4l very responsive suddenly. A total world of difference when comparing to Singapore Shell's FuelSave 95. My wife says it's because Petronas is RON 97 when Shell is RON 95. Maybe.

 

So I came back to Singapore and chanced upon a website (http://www.cozylittlehaven.net/petrolsg/) on fuel pump prices. Here is my rant - wah lau why Shell fuel all so expensive when compared to the other 3 brands?

 

RON 95 must be 5c dearer than the other 3 (Shell's price updated on 25/09 when SPC has been selling at $2.05 since 02/09, why the rush to increase price?), RON 98 also must be 11c more expensive than SPC. Wah why SPC's RON 98 so cheap huh?

 

My verdict - I'm a little bit anti-Shell now for their higher prices. Maybe I should try pumping SPC's RON 98 since I do enjoy the difference a higher RON provides.

 

Does anyone also feel that Shell is not value for money?

 

Shell is my last choice. The nearest petrol station to my home is Shell and in the 7 years that i lived there i only pumped there at most 3 times.

[Chucky2007]

My butt feel is that shell fuelsave 95 is not effective. Given a choice example free fuel of shell95 vs SPC92 & Caltex92, I'll go for Caltex92, then SPC92, then shell95.

If it's out of my own pocket, then it's spc92, caltex92, then shell.

 

No offence to shell95 supporter but the Ron95 totally cmi

[Mustank]

I have been a faithful user of Shell, partly because my company sponsors me a fuel card that happens to be by Shell. Shell has also been always active in their marketing, making me feel that Shell is indeed a superior and reputable fuel brand.

 

As such I have never really taken notice on Shell's pump prices, or for that matter, compares it with Esso, Caltex or SPC.

 

I was in Malaysia yesterday and pumped Petronas 97 at RM2.35 a litre. Man, their fuel is quite good - made my 2006 RAV4 2.4l very responsive suddenly. A total world of difference when comparing to Singapore Shell's FuelSave 95. My wife says it's because Petronas is RON 97 when Shell is RON 95. Maybe.

 

So I came back to Singapore and chanced upon a website (http://www.cozylittlehaven.net/petrolsg/) on fuel pump prices. Here is my rant - wah lau why Shell fuel all so expensive when compared to the other 3 brands?

 

RON 95 must be 5c dearer than the other 3 (Shell's price updated on 25/09 when SPC has been selling at $2.05 since 02/09, why the rush to increase price?), RON 98 also must be 11c more expensive than SPC. Wah why SPC's RON 98 so cheap huh?

 

My verdict - I'm a little bit anti-Shell now for their higher prices. Maybe I should try pumping SPC's RON 98 since I do enjoy the difference a higher RON provides.

 

Does anyone also feel that Shell is not value for money?

 

if my boss is paying for my petrol

everyday I pump v power gao gao

change car to the most jiak you one

[Myxilplix]

Shell need to pay for the Fellari sponsorship mah, of course charge more lah.

 

I sign for my petrol on the company card so I patronise Caltex as it's got the best discounts, helps the company save a few dollars every time. Personally I'd use Caltex anyway.

[Pocus]

Some cars are generally more sensitive to certain fuel types.

 

For me:

Vios- consistently shell 95, shell98 felt more torque and better Fc. Vpower smoother. Esso9500 Fc drop, caltex 95 worst.

 

Swift - consistently shell 98, vpower felt more responsive and Fc same. Esso 9800 felt sluggish and lower fc, caltex also lower Fc.

 

Colt turbo: consistently shell98, vpower no difference. Esso 9800 no difference but Fc drop. Switch for spc98 no difference and switch to it.

 

Forrester XT: SPC98, haven't try others yet.

 

SPC offers better discount upfront so I stick with it

[Penknife]

 

My car is the RAV4. It's not too bad, but I work in sales and drive alot everyday. Haha!

 

 

what's ur fc?

[Xanavi]

 

if my boss is paying for my petrol

everyday I pump v power gao gao

change car to the most jiak you one

That's why coporate cards users are only allowed to pump max 98. At least for Shell that is so. Cannot use that to pump Vpower. Pity.

[Mockngbrd]

Shell attendant sibeh unfrenly..

[Little_prince]

only previous sunny

 

i found that i get better mileage on 92 than on 98

 

i guess different cars optimised to different ron

Looks like Shell isn't really popular among our friends here!

 

I also read from many sources that the car only requires the minimum RON to work and to pump a higher RON is just wasteful.

 

My car requires minimum RON 91 but recommends RON 95. I pump Shell RON 95 but the car feels more and more sluggish. I pump Petronas RON 97 and it is really quite a difference!

 

Now my question is SPC RON 98 good anot? Has anyone tried the various brands' RON 98 before and has any feedback when comparing to SPC?

 

[Metalslug2]

just now i tried to search for petrol prices.

 

SPC, Shell, Caltex all display on their website easily.

 

Esso is nowhere to be found.

[Penknife]

just now i tried to search for petrol prices.

 

SPC, Shell, Caltex all display on their website easily.

 

Esso is nowhere to be found.

esso do not display their prices openly.

 

not sure what competitive advantage they gain by NOT displaying it.

 

i'll be using esso soon coz i got $500 petrol voucher.

[Mustank]

That's why coporate cards users are only allowed to pump max 98. At least for Shell that is so. Cannot use that to pump Vpower. Pity.

 

oh I see

now then I know

[Battledome64]

Shell attendant sibeh unfrenly..

Not to be biased but they hire old man and very unfriendly

 

I prefer SPC got more ah Lian girls and makes me want to come back more s