Exercising and losing weight

[Hcity]

i think all the talk/advice that promotes exercise to improve health is "putting the cart in front of the horse".

to improve health safely, exercise should be the #3 or #4 item on the list.

it is very sad to read in the news of people who collapse and pass away during exercise (running, badminton etc), my own ex-colleague was one such case.

 

[13177]

4 minutes ago, Hcity said:

i think all the talk/advice that promotes exercise to improve health is "putting the cart in front of the horse".

to improve health safely, exercise should be the #3 or #4 item on the list.

it is very sad to read in the news of people who collapse and pass away during exercise (running, badminton etc), my own ex-colleague was one such case.

 

Common to hear people collapse or even die during exercise. I also have a friend collapse during badminton and later found out got serious heart blockage, lucky managed to survive and done a stem surgery heart.

[Ender]

2 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Common to hear people collapse or even die during exercise. I also have a friend collapse during badminton and later found out got serious heart blockage, lucky managed to survive and done a stem surgery heart.

 

13 minutes ago, Hcity said:

i think all the talk/advice that promotes exercise to improve health is "putting the cart in front of the horse".

to improve health safely, exercise should be the #3 or #4 item on the list.

it is very sad to read in the news of people who collapse and pass away during exercise (running, badminton etc), my own ex-colleague was one such case.

 

What is even more common is sedentary peoplae collapsing while not exercising..  Usually early in the morning..  Anecdotal evidence from someone close seems more real than actual data.  Driving kenna, sitting on the couch kenna, die in the sleep kenna all these sedentary events  outweigh those who exercise, but yet they register clearly in their mind the one who kenna while exercising. 530 per million vs 22 per million, the odds for general populatin Sudden Cardiac Arrest (SCA) is 510:22, i.e a person is 23 times more likely to kenna a non-sport related SCA event compare to one during a sport event.

 

A moderate intensity of 150 minutes per weeks as set by the AHA guidleine is a good start to improve your cardio vascular health, this is undisputed science.

 

 

[Ender]

More bui bui children. Also higher risk for covid too..

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/obesity-kids-overweight-health-risk-factor-covid-19-sedentary-2375601

Commentary: Singapore children are getting fatter and it’s worrying especially during a pandemic

 

[inlinesix]

52 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Common to hear people collapse or even die during exercise. I also have a friend collapse during badminton and later found out got serious heart blockage, lucky managed to survive and done a stem surgery heart.

That's why I have my heart checked last year.  

[13177]

57 minutes ago, Ender said:

 

What is even more common is sedentary peoplae collapsing while not exercising..  Usually early in the morning..  Anecdotal evidence from someone close seems more real than actual data.  Driving kenna, sitting on the couch kenna, die in the sleep kenna all these sedentary events  outweigh those who exercise, but yet they register clearly in their mind the one who kenna while exercising. 530 per million vs 22 per million, the odds for general populatin Sudden Cardiac Arrest (SCA) is 510:22, i.e a person is 23 times more likely to kenna a non-sport related SCA event compare to one during a sport event.

 

A moderate intensity of 150 minutes per weeks as set by the AHA guidleine is a good start to improve your cardio vascular health, this is undisputed science.

 

 

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

[Ender]

3 minutes ago, 13177 said:

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

He is part of the 22 per million. 

[Roborovskii]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

I guess sometimes it boils down to luck. Some things we can control, some we can't... at least we try our best to keep fit to reduce risk, can't blame ourselves.

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, 13177 said:

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

Over the years, quite a few people I know suddenly collapsed during/after exercise and returned IC.  Mostly fairly normal fitness types.

[inlinesix]

2 hours ago, 13177 said:

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

My friend cycles a lot.  He eats much much healthier than me. 

Still have a heart attack.  It is because of his family.

 

[Ender]

3 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

My friend cycles a lot.  He eats much much healthier than me. 

Still have a heart attack.  It is because of his family.

 

Gene and some have congenital defects.

[Enye]

28 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

Over the years, quite a few people I know suddenly collapsed during/after exercise and returned IC.  Mostly fairly normal fitness types.

wah...better not to know you

😅

[macrosszero]

5 hours ago, 13177 said:

But my this friend exercise regularly, go badminton every week but still collapse suddenly. 

I can accept that as fact.

However it’s like vaccine dissenters who cite someone who had a reaction or died after taking the jab, “but what if……?”

The fact is that the vast majority of people who exercise regularly are statistically likely to have better health and less prone (but not immune) to collapsing suddenly.

Although exercising or staying sedentary is still a matter of choice, the government is clearly incentivising exercising with free trackers and steps challenge vouchers to try to stave off a looming wave of patients with lifestyle-related diseases.

[13177]

6 hours ago, Roborovskii said:

I guess sometimes it boils down to luck. Some things we can control, some we can't... at least we try our best to keep fit to reduce risk, can't blame ourselves.

True, even some things we can control also might not foolproof. Like always hear people go for health checkup yearly, and yet can still collapse suddenly or kenna some cancer after the health checkup report came back pink of health. 😅 Also like you have high cholesterol but take med to control, cholesterol level is good and normal and yet doctor also say high risk getting stroke is reduce but maybe still can get stroke. So sometimes also cannot think too much and worry too much.

[13177]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

My friend cycles a lot.  He eats much much healthier than me. 

Still have a heart attack.  It is because of his family.

 

Genetic sometimes difficult to prevent.

[Kxbc]

5 hours ago, Enye said:

wah...better not to know you

😅

same for @Arogab too. A few of his friends also kiao kiao. 😅

[Kxbc]

6 hours ago, Volvobrick said:

Over the years, quite a few people I know suddenly collapsed during/after exercise and returned IC.  Mostly fairly normal fitness types.

how old are they when they passed?

[Kxbc]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

My friend cycles a lot.  He eats much much healthier than me. 

Still have a heart attack.  It is because of his family.

 

Don't know if your friend is my friend but I have a friend who also had a heart attack and passed away while cycling. Avid cyclist too. And cardiovascularly fit.  Close to 50 then.