therock Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/the-dollars-and-sense-of-pegging-fines-to-an-offenders-income Peg the fine according to the income? My answer ? No! What about you ? ↡ Advertisement 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 I say yes. Fine is a punishment that's supposed to hurt and deter. you fine a billionaire $1000 is not even loose change to him while it could be 1 mth salary for others. But need to make sure business men cannot get away as their income is all declared within the company 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, therock said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/the-dollars-and-sense-of-pegging-fines-to-an-offenders-income Peg the fine according to the income? My answer ? No! What about you ? so if I go no income or no asset, I commit crime forever no need to pay fine (provided there are no jail alternative as punishment) 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ash2017 said: so if I go no income or no asset, I commit crime forever no need to pay fine (provided there are no jail alternative as punishment) No lah, the minimum fine should still apply for peasants.. just that the fine amount should be multiplied X times for high income earners. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleAtas Turbocharged December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 All those making shit tons of money will say no. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 Now got a lot of high income earners commit crimes? Who? Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark?😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey2011 5th Gear December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Watwheels said: Now got a lot of high income earners commit crimes? Who? Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark?😂 "With great power comes great responsibility", Peter Parker ... 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 (edited) What about a billionaire with a poorly paid chauffeur? Edited December 10, 2019 by Voodooman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 (edited) I say YES, but only if our Govt and Civil servants are paid absolutely no bonus and nothing more than an income of $5000 pm representing the median. Yes Yes Yes Otherwise dont be a Lanchiao Such shit dont work. just convert fines to caning. Simple Edited December 10, 2019 by Throttle2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, therock said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/the-dollars-and-sense-of-pegging-fines-to-an-offenders-income Peg the fine according to the income? My answer ? No! What about you ? Don't think it will work because the rich guys are often rich because of their portfolio value in stocks, property, investments. Their taxable annual income may not be that much actually 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 Should we punish people for being rich? I guess no. Punishment is meant to deter people from repeating the same offence. So, it must be effective. If money is not the answer, I am sure there are other deterrence. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 waaaa super white trying to increase revenue is it 😄 why must be fine ......... why not punish by something else . Just a gimmick to get people to support the idea . 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, therock said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/the-dollars-and-sense-of-pegging-fines-to-an-offenders-income Peg the fine according to the income? My answer ? No! What about you ? My answer is no. Haven't those high income people already paid much higher tax rate and higher net dollars? Why need to have another rule for fine? So lower income people can afford to get fine more regularly because of lower fine punishments? Let me wait till i retire , I will drive on the bus lanes during peak hour, after all by then I would be given lower fine . Edited December 10, 2019 by Ct3833 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Throttle2 said: I say YES, but only if our Govt and Civil servants are paid absolutely no bonus and nothing more than an income of $5000 pm representing the median. Yes Yes Yes Otherwise dont be a Lanchiao Such shit dont work. just convert fines to caning. Simple I think we should cane those in the administrative service who make major mistakes. Some of them are OK with hara-kiri, right? Caning is still less drastic. 😁 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Turboflat4 said: I think we should cane those in the administrative service who make major mistakes. Some of them are OK with hara-kiri, right? Caning is still less drastic. 😁 Confirmed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Turboflat4 said: I think we should cane those in the administrative service who make major mistakes. Some of them are OK with hara-kiri, right? Caning is still less drastic. 😁 you dont anyhow suggest, they may come out with another rule for those multi millionaire which i dont know who😄 to be caned even for the most minor traffic offence because money to them is no issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 (edited) Anyway, in my opinion, this is just another hare-brained idea mooted by the green-eyed masses, thinking they can get back at the "elites". Poor, deluded fools. They don't know what real elite is. Real elites will never really suffer the consequences of their law-breaking. As long as there is it's a relatively minor infraction with no real human victim and no social media vigilantism to stir the pot and force "someone's" hand, a lot of these things will be quietly swept under the rug. This will only target those moderately successful - i.e. with a bit of money but no real power. Because, when it really comes down to it, power is the only currency that matters in a crony state like ours. Edited December 10, 2019 by Turboflat4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic December 10, 2019 Share December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ct3833 said: you dont anyhow suggest, they may come out with another rule for those multi millionaire which i dont know who😄 to be caned even for the most minor traffic offence because money to them is no issue. I'm sorry, but (all joking aside) you also seem to be labouring under a misapprehension of how our system really functions. Please see my post. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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