Parliament debate 2020/2021

[Fuelsaver]

5 hours ago, Freeder said:

Lotsa EDMW flavor 😂😂

deserves a reply, "CSB"..

[boonhat_91]

On 9/4/2020 at 3:25 AM, Yewheng said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-dont-assume-you-have-a-monopoly-over-compassion-says-sm-tharman-in-debate-with

I re-read this sentence a few times. I come to realise, thaman is not just saying jamus lim, he is also saying other pap mp too. Coz he realised that they are perhaps too overly concentrate on compassion that he/she might get blindsided by it. The worst thing that they could do is to inject policies that they think are compassionate to other people. This is not right, coz how can we inject policies that they think are compassionate to other people? Different people have different thoughts, different mindset, so everyone is unique including their own compassionate thinking. 

Many criticisms of opposition seem to suggest that PAP has the monopoly over good and 'right' policies

[Yewheng]

2 hours ago, boonhat_91 said:

Many criticisms of opposition seem to suggest that PAP has the monopoly over good and 'right' policies

That's why.. Pap is not perfect too, but then when they are not perfect and because they can easily passed down legislation or what in parliament and that is very scary. 

Like what tharman one of the thing managed to see though that many pap, wp, PSP mp did not see that. That is monopolies over compassion. Of coz there might have many things that tharman might have observed and perhaps feel that is not right? Don't know whether after the 1st week of parliament session, did he go back and tell them on what is not right or not? 

 

To see things that are not right, is not easy, coz people have feelings, people have their own believes. So sometimes these 2 cloud their judgement. So need a person with very clear thought process and able to seperate out feelings, own believes to think logically. Not many people can do that although many people claimed they can. 

 

Like jamus lim, look at his Facebook post on his house visit, his parliment session on wanting to implement mimimum wage law. He seems like putting too much emotional to policies. This might cloud his judgement and use his intelligence to explain though his emotional to policies judgement, then the logical part might get left out. Logical part is very important due to if logic can't work, implement that kind of policies might make things worst. Perhaps that is why last time lesser women is in top position or in the parliment and etc. It is because women tend to be more emotional and might cloud their judgement. 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Yewheng

[Fitvip]

Of course, they are not perfect! Ownself don't even check ownself!

SINGAPORE - The revamp of a National Library Board (NLB) building was found to have gone over-budget by $1.72 million due to a lack of scrutiny from its officers, the Auditor-General's Office (AGO) said.. Read more at straitstimes.com.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/nlb-exceeded-renovation-budget-by-172-million-jtc-potentially-sublet-to-26000-unapproved

Edited September 7, 2020 by Fitvip

[Yewheng]

13 minutes ago, Fitvip said:

Of course, they are not perfect! Ownself don't even check ownself!

SINGAPORE - The revamp of a National Library Board (NLB) building was found to have gone over-budget by $1.72 million due to a lack of scrutiny from its officers, the Auditor-General's Office (AGO) said.. Read more at straitstimes.com.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/nlb-exceeded-renovation-budget-by-172-million-jtc-potentially-sublet-to-26000-unapproved

Look like we will soon have parliament debate on all these AGO report lao. 

 

It's a good thing by the way, but then if every year sort of similar lapses then something is not right already. 

[Fcw75]

[Playtime]

2 hours ago, Fcw75 said:

Please hor don't kenna pofma.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/moe-spends-s238-million-yearly-scholarships-and-tuition-grants-foreign-students

$238m figure I belive is already down like 50% from previous years. Add up the years see how much. 

You calling our govt kiam gu is it 🤣 

[Victor68]

18 hours ago, Fitvip said:

Of course, they are not perfect! Ownself don't even check ownself!

SINGAPORE - The revamp of a National Library Board (NLB) building was found to have gone over-budget by $1.72 million due to a lack of scrutiny from its officers, the Auditor-General's Office (AGO) said.. Read more at straitstimes.com.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/nlb-exceeded-renovation-budget-by-172-million-jtc-potentially-sublet-to-26000-unapproved

No worries there thousands and 1 expiation like the $1M  bin centre. Otherwise will kanna the WP case of mishandling public funds. 

[Volvobrick]

18 hours ago, Fitvip said:

Of course, they are not perfect! Ownself don't even check ownself!

SINGAPORE - The revamp of a National Library Board (NLB) building was found to have gone over-budget by $1.72 million due to a lack of scrutiny from its officers, the Auditor-General's Office (AGO) said.. Read more at straitstimes.com.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/nlb-exceeded-renovation-budget-by-172-million-jtc-potentially-sublet-to-26000-unapproved

Year in year out lapses happen again and again. Those culprits would just get promoted to the next job to do bigger harm (think MOM) , no one needs to answer. 

Incompetence /ignorance is not a crime in silver service. Only if personally take $$, then they will act. 

Edited September 8, 2020 by Volvobrick

[Fcw75]

28 minutes ago, Playtime said:

Please hor don't kenna pofma.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/moe-spends-s238-million-yearly-scholarships-and-tuition-grants-foreign-students

$238m figure I belive is already down like 50% from previous years. Add up the years see how much. 

You calling our govt kiam gu is it 🤣 

Aiyo, so tough on those foreign students and talents. Poor them.

[inlinesix]

30 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

Year in year out lapses happen again and again. Those culprits would just get promoted to the next job to do bigger harm (think MOM) , no one needs to answer. 

Incompetence /ignorance is not a crime in silver service. Only if personally take $$, then they will act. 

NLB previously under Yaakob Ibrahim.  Now retired.

The supervising officer might have move to other stat board if he/she is high flying.

[Fitvip]

6 hours ago, Victor68 said:

No worries there thousands and 1 expiation like the $1M  bin centre. Otherwise will kanna the WP case of mishandling public funds. 

True, even $13+ mn loss is also normal!

[Fitvip]

6 hours ago, Volvobrick said:

Year in year out lapses happen again and again. Those culprits would just get promoted to the next job to do bigger harm (think MOM) , no one needs to answer. 

Incompetence /ignorance is not a crime in silver service. Only if personally take $$, then they will act. 

One thing is for sure, they won't get sued!😱

[Volvobrick]

Just now, Fitvip said:

One thing is for sure, they won't get sued!😱

As I said, as long as don't personally take $! Will be very safe. 

[Fitvip]

1 minute ago, Volvobrick said:

As I said, as long as don't personally take $! Will be very safe. 

This does not apply the Oppies!

[Sdf4786k]

On 9/4/2020 at 3:48 PM, Yewheng said:

So what does it mean? 

Dont object to live streaming, but if buay song , can still choose not to have it

So now if your wife say , how about going holiday to Africa after the CB is lifted, u can use the in principal saying. But after CB still no money, then don't go is not lying.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Sdf4786k

[Yewheng]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/parliament-motion-drawn-louis-ng-sylvia-lim-tan-chuan-jin-13160420

 

So fast next week will start 2nd session of parliment debate.. Sylvia lim did not get the ballot, end up is Louis Ng get it.. 

[Watwheels]

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Ms Lim and Mr Ng's adjournment motions were among the five in total that were submitted.

 

It's literally a handful of motions being submitted. I mean parliament dont have time for 5 issues to be raised? If you say there are 20 and it's necessary to ballot that I can understand...but 5 also ballot? First time I see balloting is used for such a low figure. Can only happen here I guess.

Actually I want to say is "so neow" or stingy.

Edited September 30, 2020 by Watwheels