[Error] Mazda & Vezel Thread

[therock]

Most of the reputable PIs are selling at higher prices.

Is there one that sell at more reasonable price?

Bro

What's a reasonable price?

I would suggest you don't fall prey to someone offering a very low price. Everyone needs to make some money.

If the majority of dealers are selling at a certain price range, beware of anyone trying to sell you one for a lot less

Don't join the ranks of those who got cheated.

[therock]

This reminds me of the bugis ferrai accident.

 

The ferrai was speeding very fast. The impact was so great that it almost strip the female passenger naked. However, the passenger survived but not the driver. So the airbags didn't save him and this is a $Mil ferrai, not any b&b car you and I have. So its driver's fault or airbag fault?

Bro

I think that's a pretty extreme case. The Ferrari was a missle. Even if the taxi was a tank the lady may have still perished.

In general airbags are good but you decide for yourself if you wish to compromise on this. Cheers

[7hm]

can spend few hundreds to add from aftermarket u mean? nvr heard of such thing.

 

better not to depend too much on technology; learn to sharpen one's mind by adhering to what was taught in driving school b sure fire way to reduce / avoid accidents.. really can't drive just take public tpt..

 

Few extra hundreds to add on as a factory option if the car don't come with it as standard. But I only see the Japs are the ones who are really reluctant to offer more than 2 airbags as standard. Or budget level Korean cars. Most western marques all don't skimp on airbags.

Look at the Corolla Altis. At its pricepoint it still lacks rear airbags and previously didn't even have traction control.

 

I recall seeing an option for the seatbelt airbags from Ford, it's only US$190. Surely it is not considered expensive.

 

Airbags are not suitable for aftermarket installation to my knowledge.

 

 

 

 

But at any rate airbags should not be viewed as an ego thing, but for that one moment disaster strikes.

Edited November 8, 2016 by 7hm

[Orangie]

Bro

I think that's a pretty extreme case. The Ferrari was a missle. Even if the taxi was a tank the lady may have still perished.

In general airbags are good but you decide for yourself if you wish to compromise on this. Cheers

Bro

Ain't we driving at that kind of speed up north?

 

Just in case if you're not aware, some are already in the 200 club.

 

U atill want to continue the bag thrash talks or u also just want to register ur last words in? Bro, bo cheers

Bro

I think that's a pretty extreme case. The Ferrari was a missle. Even if the taxi was a tank the lady may have still perished.

In general airbags are good but you decide for yourself if you wish to compromise on this. Cheers

Bro

Ain't we driving at that kind of speed up north?

 

Just in case if you're not aware, some are already in the 200 club.

 

U atill want to continue the bag thrash talks or u also just want to register ur last words in? Bro, bo cheers

[Fuelsaver]

Few extra hundreds to add on as a factory option if the car don't come with it as standard. But I only see the Japs are the ones who are really reluctant to offer more than 2 airbags as standard. Or budget level Korean cars. Most western marques all don't skimp on airbags.

Look at the Corolla Altis. At its pricepoint it still lacks rear airbags and previously didn't even have traction control.

 

I recall seeing an option for the seatbelt airbags from Ford, it's only US$190. Surely it is not considered expensive.

 

Airbags are not suitable for aftermarket installation to my knowledge.

 

 

 

 

But at any rate airbags should not be viewed as an ego thing, but for that one moment disaster strikes.

if few hundred can get safety then should opt for it; nothing to do w ego - just i'm kiasi cos i ever kena side n curtain airbag deployed few yrs back. if no airbag probably may suffer some impact n cuts fr broken n flying windscreen shrapnel.

 

only angmo emphasizes on safety that y even entry conti also full airbags but not for jap; koreans r catchin up i believe.. not sure bout toyota; they may b offerin vsc as standard to make up for missing airbags but i felt still not serious enuf about safety ..

[Fuelsaver]

Bro

Ain't we driving at that kind of speed up north?

 

Just in case if you're not aware, some are already in the 200 club.

 

U atill want to continue the bag thrash talks or u also just want to register ur last words in? Bro, bo cheers

Bro

Ain't we driving at that kind of speed up north?

 

Just in case if you're not aware, some are already in the 200 club.

 

U atill want to continue the bag thrash talks or u also just want to register ur last words in? Bro, bo cheers

at 3-figure speeds no safety features can help.

 

crash test only at much lower speeds - http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2011/08/crash-test-101/index.htm

 

[Sky_2016]

Your can refer below YouTube for 2015/6 testing, show that air bags is very important for us.....

 

 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Sky_2016

[Fireman]

Not sure why the hooha on the airbags. If need more just buy more! 

 

But I cannot wrap my head around the Sensing thing. Relying on a computer to help you manage your drive is simply dangerous, anytime. 

 

Imagine the Sensing is like using your iphone or Samseng phones and suddenly they just reboot or reset or hang.

 

To be fair, I might use Sensing when I am drunk but then again, I should not be driving at all . 

[therock]

In the end we have to decide:

Airbags add cost especially since they add to the import costs. If an airbag cost 200 it will cost twice that here. And people will scrimp on it because of that.

We also decide what speeds we drive at.

What we don't determine is what the other guy does.

I choose a car based on safety as well as features, performance and space. Ymmv.

[Zcold]

Wow....actually works! Even the workshop technician doesn't know about this! Thanks, bro!

 

Heys man no prob! I pushed every button in the car when I first got it haha.

Enjoy the ride!

[WWbarb]

Took out the pop corns and watched horror movie of the year, "The Airbags". Tsk tsk tsk...

[Bluedevilz3761]

Not sure why the hooha on the airbags. If need more just buy more!

 

But I cannot wrap my head around the Sensing thing. Relying on a computer to help you manage your drive is simply dangerous, anytime.

 

Imagine the Sensing is like using your iphone or Samseng phones and suddenly they just reboot or reset or hang.

 

To be fair, I might use Sensing when I am drunk but then again, I should not be driving at all .

Yup, i would particularly caution against using the CMS (collision avoidance feature). My recent experience. Car in front sudden brake, my next lane was clear so i switched lane but the CMS feature also automatically applied heavy brakes as i switched lane. So much so that the car in the next lane that was initially far behind had to slow down a lot to avoid kissing my backside. Have switched off CMS since. Moral of my story - use sensing only if it assists and does not override driver's control and intent.

[Orangie]

Your can refer below YouTube for 2015/6 testing, show that air bags is very important for us.....

 

 

 

Bro, was it mentioned in the last 2 days the airbags are NOT important? It is the number of bags that is in question.

 

Since the culture here is to put things out of context and jump to conclusion, allow me to join in the bandwagon.

Brief summary

20 bags confirmed safer than 15 bags. 10 bags confirmed cannot survive any crash.

20 bags confirm able to walk away from any accident. 10 bags confirm sure die.

My point is 20 bags may not save you. Preventative measure would be a better life saver.

 

You can just replace the numbers with 8, 6 and 2. I'm beginning to believe some undercover PI is trying his luck on this. Anyway, good to hear from royal auto ceo that they are still delivering cars.

 

Take example of a construction incident. Worker found dead hanging by his safety rope. He has all the safety equipment on him and yet he is still dead from falling from height. So, what cause him to fall? Spur of the moment? Taking shortcut? Kanna push? Playing ard with frens?

[7hm]

Yup, i would particularly caution against using the CMS (collision avoidance feature). My recent experience. Car in front sudden brake, my next lane was clear so i switched lane but the CMS feature also automatically applied heavy brakes as i switched lane. So much so that the car in the next lane that was initially far behind had to slow down a lot to avoid kissing my backside. Have switched off CMS since. Moral of my story - use sensing only if it assists and does not override driver's control and intent.

 

If that's the case, then Honda Sensing's implementation may be rather... poor. The version I have issues a warning tone and flashing light and gives me a time frame to perform my own reactions and will disable the active braking if strong acceleration or sharp steering action is taken.

[BlitzStryker]

If that's the case, then Honda Sensing's implementation may be rather... poor. The version I have issues a warning tone and flashing light and gives me a time frame to perform my own reactions and will disable the active braking if strong acceleration or sharp steering action is taken.

It will do the above first. But if it senses that the object/car infront is too near, they will bypass the warning/flashing and straight applies brakes for you. For the other bro incident, his front car may be too near, therefore Sensing just applies brakes immediately.

[Mind]

Hi all, am a first time car buyer. Just being informed that coe secured by AD, is it usual practice that the balance payment is due only like one week before car collection?

[7hm]

Hi all, am a first time car buyer. Just being informed that coe secured by AD, is it usual practice that the balance payment is due only like one week before car collection?

 

 

Practice varies from dealer to dealer, but it's not unusual for them to request your downpayment balance prior to collection.

[Mind]

Thanks 7hm, but it is unusual to request for balance payment when the car has not even reached Singapore right? Am ok if it is like a week before collection.