Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 No one wants to walk into the lion's den, later kanna psycho-ed jia lat plus in order to be released from the den, you have to bring in 100 new members .... ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 plus in order to be released from the den, you have to bring in 100 new members .... Kekekeke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 So many people criticising CHC so much, but it does nothing to change the situation. The only thing one can do to really make changes is to go to CHC church on Sundays and tell these things written here in forum to the followers. But who will ? Lol. Not easy to change those already brainwashed by cult. Only when they become too dangerous and the authority has to take actions, then we can see they are dissolved. http://libertyforcaptives.com/2013/10/12/how-to-rescue-someone-from-a-cult/ You usually can’t just rescue someone from a cult. Put aside images of white horses, commando raids, or black bulletproof sedans.While a few cult converts may walk away shortly after entering a spiritually abusive group, for most it is a longer process. It can take months or years. The point is that once someone is in a cult, it is very difficult to leave. This is part of the definition of a cult, by the way—exiting is hard.Also by definition, the cult member doesn’t believe that he or she is in a cult. Instead, he or she believes that they have achieved a privileged status in an elite group which offers them ultimate salvation. So your attempts to “save” them from their group ring hollow—or sound nefarious—to the cult member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Not easy to change those already brainwashed by cult. Only when they become too dangerous and the authority has to take actions, then we can see they are dissolved. http://libertyforcaptives.com/2013/10/12/how-to-rescue-someone-from-a-cult/ agree, if that is their only mental support, take that away could drive them into depression and lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 got Entry sign but no Exit sign ... don't play play No one wants to walk into the lion's den, later kanna psycho-ed jia lat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 got Entry sign but no Exit sign ... don't play play Machiam like Hotel California, or a Pi Xiu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 No one wants to walk into the lion's den, later kanna psycho-ed jia lat Yeah, so In the end nothing changes. But I myself also won't go to the den to wake up their ideas, as they make chase me away, even though if my intention is good. Maybe someone very articulate and eloquent and convincing should go there and give them a wake up call. Otherwise the whole CHC problem is status quo. My point is, we all know something is really deeply wrong, but nothing is done to correct it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Yeah, so In the end nothing changes. But I myself also won't go to the den to wake up their ideas, as they make chase me away, even though if my intention is good. Maybe someone very articulate and eloquent and convincing should go there and give them a wake up call. Otherwise the whole CHC problem is status quo. My point is, we all know something is really deeply wrong, but nothing is done to correct it. Articulate and eloquent + charismatic to charm the xmms there & rescue them....maybe can ask bro @tianmo whether he can sacrifice a bit or not...kekeke.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 KHFC's changi harvest church hall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Yeah, so In the end nothing changes. But I myself also won't go to the den to wake up their ideas, as they make chase me away, even though if my intention is good. Maybe someone very articulate and eloquent and convincing should go there and give them a wake up call. Otherwise the whole CHC problem is status quo. My point is, we all know something is really deeply wrong, but nothing is done to correct it. have you seen couple fighting and when someone trying to help the woman, the woman turn around and scold the person trying to help? there are something inside that make her stay despite been abused., the only way is for her to wake up and heart die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyng 4th Gear November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Their major doctrine is prosperity gospel.. They have been fed a distorted view of God and what the Bible says.. u think that is a true Christian church? How can a church be true if it is lead by false preacher/prophets? My understanding is Christianity is founded on overridding values of love and forgiveness. Based on my limited understanding on Christian theology, your charge is controversial at best. Going by the above, one can be much much more forgiving of the church body (so long they lean on the bible - on my spectrum, I think their crime of doctrinal mis-emphasis is much less serious than say "we worship the current bloodline of christ-kind-of-thing") This forgiving stance also is in line with the idea of final judgement resting with God - who else can really see CHC followers' hearts? That said, false preaching is clearly cautioned about in the bible and approach is to guard against or rebuke. And God will handle the rest. In fact if you view all these events in the context of God's love and forgiveness, even false preachers deserve forgiveness. Overall, I submit that CHC is more a church that has lost its way. Not as a cult you charge. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 My understanding is Christianity is founded on overridding values of love and forgiveness. Every religions also preach love & forgiveness .... Its only a few that goes way above the preaching ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Everything started out with good intentions. It's just along the way, people become corrupted and greed take over. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Wrong, Jesus will want to la-kopi from KH how he managed to do all this networking stuff of transferring " God's funds " yet almost get away with it ( lighter sentence ) The true meaning of CHC is " Chin Ho Chia " You are right, I always read Strait Times headlines with photos of KH regularly carrying a big cup of coffee arriving at court compound together with many reporters I suppose this is what you are referring to "La-Kopi" with someone My bad, I thought the wrong meanings such as "Changi Hotel Customers" 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 changi chalet serve amdk starbuck bo? only La high class coffee hor You are right, I always read Strait Times headlines with photos of KH regularly carrying a big cup of coffee arriving at court compound together with many reporters I suppose this is what you are referring to "La-Kopi" with someone My bad, I thought the wrong meanings such as "Changi Hotel Customers" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) changi chalet serve amdk starbuck bo? only La high class coffee hor Horses pen is found to be as tua kee as Ang Moh, let's clarify the average scale measurement with our MCF Darryn Edited November 24, 2015 by 2BDriver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 changi chalet serve amdk starbuck bo? only La high class coffee hor KH needs his full Expresso shot, I guess so. He needs all the caffeine fix in court, i guess so again, ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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