Apple-Tree 6th Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Aiya, when 1 altis OMV is only < $20K, how can you buy an original at 2K ? I agree that switching on headlights for safety reasons is the right thing to do.... but I think you need to be updated : a pair of original LED headlights on even a Toyota Altis will cost thousands of dollars. I know cos I) I deliberately asked the salesperson when I test drove it 2 years back; and II) my colleague had to repair her Altis after an accident. The workshop charges will be $2-3k for the headlights.The cheong type of LED headlights will be cheaper but they won't last - that's the painful lesson my collleague learned. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 I agree that switching on headlights for safety reasons is the right thing to do.... but I think you need to be updated : a pair of original LED headlights on even a Toyota Altis will cost thousands of dollars. I know cos I) I deliberately asked the salesperson when I test drove it 2 years back; and II) my colleague had to repair her Altis after an accident. The workshop charges will be $2-3k for the headlights. The cheong type of LED headlights will be cheaper but they won't last - that's the painful lesson my collleague learned. $200 for halogens lah... which may be more prone to burning out if switched on and off more often. Same for xenon. LED lagi better, they are more resistant to switching on and off. No reason not to use auto headlights if yours are LED. 2k for LEDs? Lol... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
attitude777 1st Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Interesting on the last statement. Meaning it would be very close like tailgating. However it only applies to front lamp if you are the tailgater. Rear lamp still needs to be on. If I'm not wrong driving without headlights on is a fine of $30? Actually when you stop at traffic light and a car is in front of you, it is quite obvious to know your headlights is on or not. There's indicator in the instrumental cluster also. Lights not on, no indicator displayed. And also, driving with fog lights on is illegal in Singapore. Only unless condition seriously reduced visibility which is quite rare except serious haze or super duper heavy downpour. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=CompId%3A83317564-1f3b-4697-ad28-2a812456ade3%20ValidTime%3A20130402000000%20TransactionTime%3A20130402000000;rec=0 Lamps to be lit during hours of darkness 5.—(1) When any motor vehicle is in motion during the hours of darkness on a length of road, every lamp required to be carried by the motor vehicle by virtue of these Rules shall be kept lit. (2) Every headlamp of a vehicle shall, when lit under paragraph (1), emit a dipped beam if — (a) there are on the road along which the vehicle is moving street lamps placed not more than 150 metres from each other; and (b) the lamps are lit. (3) For the purposes of this rule, it shall not be necessary for the front lamps of a vehicle to be kept lit if the vehicle is being drawn by another and the distance between the two vehicles is less than 1½ metres. Wah. The law books write until so detailed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokechye 4th Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 $200 for halogens lah... which may be more prone to burning out if switched on and off more often. Same for xenon. LED lagi better, they are more resistant to switching on and off. No reason not to use auto headlights if yours are LED. 2k for LEDs? Lol... Replacement of halogen bulbs also cheap cheap la. No reason to not use auto headlights too. Haa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic October 23, 2016 Author Share October 23, 2016 (edited) Actually Cars Mfg can do 1 thing,most newer cars come with DRL,they can just make the Rear & Licence plate lights on when we start the car.together with the DRL...so nobody will forget the lights. Edited October 23, 2016 by ER-3682 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Actually Cars Mfg can do 1 thing,most newer cars come with DRL,they can just make the Rear & Licence plate lights on when we start the car.together with the DRL...so nobody will forget the lights. A better idea is to do away with all the street lights. Street lights pollute the sky line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphard96 6th Gear October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Actually Cars Mfg can do 1 thing,most newer cars come with DRL,they can just make the Rear & Licence plate lights on when we start the car.together with the DRL...so nobody will forget the lights. This is practically possible. LTA had done that in SG for all two wheeers (motorcycles) - from onemotoring website. Motorcycles registered in Singapore on or after 1st November 1997 must be equipped with an automatic headlamp switch-on function to comply with the above requirement. Disabling of this function is not allowed. Btw, in my opinion, most of the drivers who do not ON the headlights because they are not aware that it is not ON, simply forget, dont think they purposely OFF it to save money/fuse/bulbs etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic October 23, 2016 Author Share October 23, 2016 A better idea is to do away with all the street lights. Street lights pollute the sky line. Already not possible now,S'porean get too used to well lit Roads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 This is practically possible. LTA had done that in SG for all two wheeers (motorcycles) - from onemotoring website. Motorcycles registered in Singapore on or after 1st November 1997 must be equipped with an automatic headlamp switch-on function to comply with the above requirement. Disabling of this function is not allowed. Btw, in my opinion, most of the drivers who do not ON the headlights because they are not aware that it is not ON, simply forget, dont think they purposely OFF it to save money/fuse/bulbs etc. I can tell you a reason why. Cos in older cars the dashboard will only light up when the headlights are on. Nowadays the dashboard lights up regardless of whether or not the headlights are on for some models. So easy to forget if you equate lit up dashboard = headlights on esp if the place you are in is very well lit like in much of Singapore. Unlikely one will forget of the place is dark as the absence of headlights will be obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I agree that switching on headlights for safety reasons is the right thing to do.... but I think you need to be updated : a pair of original LED headlights on even a Toyota Altis will cost thousands of dollars. I know cos I) I deliberately asked the salesperson when I test drove it 2 years back; and II) my colleague had to repair her Altis after an accident. The workshop charges will be $2-3k for the headlights. The cheong type of LED headlights will be cheaper but they won't last - that's the painful lesson my collleague learned. On regards to the high price of replacement, usually this is the case because factory designed LED units come as a full assembly, the only replaceable portion are only the halogen bulbs if there are any - the LEDs are not designed to be user serviceable. And this is often also because the LED headlamps are made of arrays of multiple LEDs - not just one bulb as you might get when you replace your traditional headlamps - that are custom designed to the housing and layout to fit the shape and intended beam. The housing also must contain the necessary cooling devices to dissipate the heat produced at the circuit board. The upshot to this is that LED designs have stronger beams with denser fill and generally don't have to replaced much. The average lifespan of a LED is much longer than xenon or halogen and the likelihood of all diodes failing simultaneously may as well be said to be zero, barring electrical or wiring failure in the unit (sometimes you see a whole chunk of those Merc taxi's tail lights not working), something traditional lights are still vulnerable to. Manufacturers also get to do more exotic designs with LEDs. Compared to replacing bulbs every so often and weighing other advantages of LED? I think they're the way to go. The downshot is that when an accident or damage of other kind occurs, usually the entire thing must go. And as you've learnt, it's usually four figures a piece. Even worse with adaptive designs. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Already not possible now,S'porean get too used to well lit Roads.Well lit streets are also meant for pedestrians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 LED light kaputs mostly not because the LEDs are kaputted, but because the electronic circuit boards are kaputted due to heat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinT Neutral Newbie November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Lol this has gotten so bad, we need a thread. But i agree. It's dangerous. Had to tell a couple of drivers on the road to turn their lights on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valrosx 3rd Gear November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Its a traffic offence if headlights are not switch on after 1900hrs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic November 21, 2016 Author Share November 21, 2016 Its a traffic offence if headlights are not switch on after 1900hrs? It is an offence,but sometime cannot blame those drivers,some thought their meters got light,means their lights is on,some thought their Cars come with bright DRL,thought no need to on their Lights[never notice their rear is totally dark]... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwaver 4th Gear November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Its a traffic offence if headlights are not switch on after 1900hrs? Nowadays also hardly see TP or LTA enforcers on the roads after 1900hrs . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokechye 4th Gear November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 It is an offence,but sometime cannot blame those drivers,some thought their meters got light,means their lights is on,some thought their Cars come with bright DRL,thought no need to on their Lights[never notice their rear is totally dark]... These drivers also thought they got DRL at their rear. Total darkness! Even worst when they are in black or dark colors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark 5th Gear November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 It is an offence,but sometime cannot blame those drivers,some thought their meters got light,means their lights is on,some thought their Cars come with bright DRL,thought no need to on their Lights[never notice their rear is totally dark]... Even then the dashboard lights will be too bright at night. Turning on the headlights will actually dim the dashboard to a more acceptable level. On an average night I am seeing 4-5 vehicles without headlights on. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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