macrosszero Turbocharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 So what? If you had a *need* for a car, yet cannot bear to spend, or cannot afford to spend, the extra $20-30k more for a new car, renewing COE makes sense. Yes, parts fail with age and mileage, that is accepted - but take a straw poll of the broken down cars you see on the roadside on a given day, how many are COE cars? As for the pollution factor, I would deem that the Ministry of Transport's imposition of a 50% road tax loading has already addressed this point, whether it is for pollution abatement or for deterrence. ↡ Advertisement 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglittlebean 3rd Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 I believe that some old cars are still worth extending their COEs. Just scrapped my Toyota Vitz last week due to the high PARF. Still in good condition and can attain a FC of 17km/l. Think Yaris which is similar would be worth keeping beyond 10 years. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL173 1st Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Am going to revalidate my current Toyota VIOS 2006 on next month for another 10 years. A reliable car with low maintenance & good FC @ 17km/l. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 TS: and your point is? Let ppl do what they need to la. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 This is a much better option than to go to a 2nd hand dealer. When need to fork out $ for repairs also more gum wan. Altis, vios, wish, civic, jazz, stream, latio, avante, lancer ex, cs3, sunny. Gogogo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 (edited) Many people are renewing their 10 year old car, but most people only renewed 5 year coe, and guess not many people renew 10 year coe. So there are still many old cars being scrapped for the next 5 years or so. Anyway, car breakdown nothing much got to do with the age of the car la. If car is maintain and service regularly accordingly, over 10 year old car still can run perfectly well on the road. Edited April 17, 2016 by 13177 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axela72 5th Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 meaning 5 years later coe quota might not be as low as their 10 yrs ago? So 5 years later we can all change car at lower coe value as per initial standard forecast Many people are renewing their 10 year old car, but most people only renewed 5 year coe, and guess not many people renew 10 year coe. So there are still many old cars being scrapped for the next 5 years or so. Anyway, car breakdown nothing much got to do with the age of the car la. If car is maintain and service regularly accordingly, over 10 year old car still can run perfectly well on the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Old cars are not prone to breakdown. Really depends on well it's taken care of. Agree. My car is 15 years old. Maintained well breakdowns are kept to a minimum. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 It's only due to Singapore's "unique" COE system that most cars have an artificial lifespan of 10 years. Cars should be built to last far longer than that, and in most other places it's common to keep them for as long as they can last and as long as they still work for you. 10 years isn't really that old anyway. Thus far, I've owned two cars in Hong Kong which are older than 20 years old, one of them for 8 years (still keeping) and one for 7 years. They have never broken down on me and left me stranded. Even when wear and tear parts need to be replaced, I always know well in advance. I have been conscientious about maintenance, which has been nothing but basic oil changes and wear and tear, and they have rewarded me well by never letting me down even in really rough conditions. A lot of the so-called "old" cars which had their COE renewed recently are still very new compared to this. Also, in general, a lot of older cars are much more mechanical and have less sophisticated electronic or computerized parts which might fail. Thus, as long as maintained well, it isn't necessarily true that older cars are always more likely to break down. Of course, those owners who don't maintain their cars well can expect them to give a lot of problems as their cars age. I would only advocate renewing COE for a car that one has kept for some time and maintained well, so one can be confident about its condition. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 This is a much better option than to go to a 2nd hand dealer. When need to fork out $ for repairs also more gum wan. Altis, vios, wish, civic, jazz, stream, latio, avante, lancer ex, cs3, sunny. Gogogo. Aiyo, u didnt mention any korean n conti ride ah.. Me still thinkin should renew anot for my 8yo tucson, since my son likes it so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Generally I agree depend on maintenance, but auto car weakest link is gb. I believe lifespan wont outlive manual ones. So if mileage > 200k km I wont renew coe. Anyone not agree? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Generally I agree depend on maintenance, but auto car weakest link is gb. I believe lifespan wont outlive manual ones. So if mileage > 200k km I wont renew coe. Anyone not agree? True to a certain extent, but auto gearbox can be repaired or overhauled. Costs quite a bit, but will still be less than buying a new car in the long run. Also, the gearbox generally won't fail on you overnight. You'll have warning signs like jerking during shifts, delay in engagement etc which will prompt you to get it fixed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Aiyo, u didnt mention any korean n conti ride ah.. Me still thinkin should renew anot for my 8yo tucson, since my son likes it so much. Have! Avante gogogo.Conti...golf mk5. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 True to a certain extent, but auto gearbox can be repaired or overhauled. Costs quite a bit, but will still be less than buying a new car in the long run. Also, the gearbox generally won't fail on you overnight. You'll have warning signs like jerking during shifts, delay in engagement etc which will prompt you to get it fixed. Agreed on this. If you maintain well and know how to look out, you can fix problems early and avoid big bills later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch1984 4th Gear April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 If the old car is too costly to run and maintain, then it may be better to get a new one rather than renew. For old cars, you will have to live with: - Poorer FC - Higher road tax - Higher maintenance costs (new cars comes with free servicing and lesser wear and tear replacement) - Higher insurance - Yearly VICOM - Forgo PARF when you renew - any others that i have missed out The above may add up to more than the cost of a new car (excluding COE, since you have to pay COE to renew). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged April 17, 2016 Share April 17, 2016 Old cars are not prone to breakdown. Really depends on well it's taken care of. I'm not surprised if a good deal of breakdown cars as of late are ones that haven't been cared for because of "I'll be scrapping it soon" mentalities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic April 18, 2016 Share April 18, 2016 renew coe is jin songs one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix0405 5th Gear April 18, 2016 Share April 18, 2016 Renew is good and is going to catch our LTA scholars off guard. It will disrupt the supply curve 4 yrs (most renew 5 yr, trend started last year) from now. While the scholars expect supply to ran out of gas in 4 yrs, this little turbo will kick in and surprise their analysis. Anything that can outsmart scholars must be good. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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