teomingern Supercharged December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 So does the 2.0l stinger have luxury interior?Luxurious in my opinion but not yet at Audi level... to be expected... I mean you pay like how much compared to the A5 Sportback? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 (edited) Between a A5 SB and 3.3L Stinger, I'll take the A5 SB any time. 3.3L is a bit overpowered for SG, the 2L in the A5 is the sweet spot. Not to mention premium conti quality and badge from the A5. I know many buy cars with a view of better depreciation numbers base off calculation. But really, when it comes to selling, even if its 18K depreciation for a 3.3 vs 1.8 / 2.0 for an Audi, the Audi will be resold faster then a stinger. Edited December 30, 2017 by Sdf4786k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 (edited) Bargain. Edited December 30, 2017 by Jamesc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern Supercharged December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 But seriously... just drive the car for 10 years lar... who cares about depreciation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 Yes but where are you going with your 400whp? During the traffic jam, even the ferrari and lambo behind me cant do anything about it.... IMO a 2L turbo is great for SG, next is to have luxurious interior and features so you can enjoy the drive. The sound, the fury, and the emotion of a well-tuned V6 adds so much feel to a sporting car. A 4-pot is just not the same IMO. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged December 30, 2017 Share December 30, 2017 Between a A5 SB and 3.3L Stinger, I'll take the A5 SB any time. 3.3L is a bit overpowered for SG, the 2L in the A5 is the sweet spot. Not to mention premium conti quality and badge from the A5.I was referring to the 2L stinger vs the base A5 SB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged December 31, 2017 Share December 31, 2017 I was referring to the 2L stinger vs the base A5 SB. That is the same performance class, but different price class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic December 31, 2017 Share December 31, 2017 I know many buy cars with a view of better depreciation numbers base off calculation. But really, when it comes to selling, even if its 18K depreciation for a 3.3 vs 1.8 / 2.0 for an Audi, the Audi will be resold faster then a stinger. Because not easy to 'stomach' the 3,300 cc Road Tax. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake109 Supercharged December 31, 2017 Share December 31, 2017 (edited) Yes but where are you going with your 400whp? During the traffic jam, even the ferrari and lambo behind me cant do anything about it.... IMO a 2L turbo is great for SG, next is to have luxurious interior and features so you can enjoy the drive. There will be short bursts when you need to merge into a gap or outgun something where you need more power almost always. I went over the years from below 100 to 150 to 200 to 400+ and its never enough. In any case, its not as if a 400hp car covers twice the distance of a 200hp car in the same time. Every little 50hp just give a smaller and smaller increment in performance. It tapers off. More importantly, for driving enjoyment, the feel of a bigger engine in itselfs lends greater satisfaction. Being able to enjoy huge torque (read as higher hp) in the low rev range lets you accelerate in a more relaxed manner (e.g. no need to break 2k rpm and you already pull away smooth and fast from the lights.) Edited December 31, 2017 by Ake109 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern Supercharged December 31, 2017 Share December 31, 2017 Of course at the expense of immense fuel consumption lar... ha ha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 1, 2018 Share January 1, 2018 Aiyah who says expensive. Only about 10.5 Bitcoins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged January 1, 2018 Share January 1, 2018 Of course at the expense of immense fuel consumption lar... ha ha... unless opt for those with cylinder-deactivation tech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopskysalat 4th Gear January 1, 2018 Share January 1, 2018 Of course at the expense of immense fuel consumption lar... ha ha...Peak torque at low rev comes from maintaining a constant boost pressure which requires higher fuel. One dont gain something from nothing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged January 2, 2018 Share January 2, 2018 VW Arteon launch tomorrow. So probably got some price correction after that to pit it with stinger and Skoda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic January 2, 2018 Share January 2, 2018 VW Arteon launch tomorrow. So probably got some price correction after that to pit it with stinger and Skoda VW....i avoid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic January 5, 2018 Share January 5, 2018 http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-motoring/kia-stinger-20-review-koreas-answer-to-bmw IT is often said that youth is wasted on the young, but maybe the flip side of that idea is that wealth is wasted on the mature. But here comes the Kia Stinger to strike a jolly balance between the two. It's an exciting car that isn't expensive (though that is not the same as being cheap), and you can glean both attributes, respectively, by just looking at the thing and from the fact that it's a Kia. The badge might be Korean, but the car was designed in Europe by Europeans, although the Stinger mostly looks like someone took, well, a stinger missile and added wheels. That someone was Frenchman Gregory Guillaume, who heads Kia's design centre in Germany, though his actual source of inspiration was the Maserati Ghibli coupe from the late 1960s. As with the majority of the shapely "grand tourers" of the era, the Stinger has a seductive body with a low, flowing roof, and elongated proportions with a wide stance to give it plenty of presence on the road. Dark chrome on the front grille and wing mirrors add a touch of menace, helping to convey the idea that this isn't a car to be messed with. The rear flares out gently, giving the body the subtlest hint of a Coke-bottle shape, which in turn lets you know that the engine powers the rear wheels. It's built on the classic front engine/rear drive layout that helped build BMW's pedigree, in other words. In spite of that, the pricing is very un-BMW. Two models are on sale in Singapore, with the range kicking off at S$166,999 including COE for the 2.0 GT Line model. The money buys you so much car that you're left scratching your head as to how Kia can turn a profit on these things. For starters, the Stinger is a pretty big machine. It's substantially longer than BMW's 4 Series Gran Coupe, a key rival, and slightly wider. Its size is masked somewhat by how low-slung it is, but the substantial length creates an illusion of space inside even though the low roofline eats into rear headroom. It's more practical than the average sports car, with room for five adults in a pinch, though tall people will find it grim in the back. The boot holds 406 litres of stuff, which isn't huge but should be enough for a weekend getaway for two adult couples. Even the 2.0 model gets plenty of equipment, such as 18 inch wheels, a keyless entry and engine start system, a 10-way power adjustable driver's seat (8-way for the passenger's) with built in ventilator fans, a fancy 8 inch touchscreen system that can mirror your iPhone through Apple CarPlay, and the list goes on. And as dramatic to look at as the exterior is, the cabin is just as stirring. The materials inside are surprisingly posh, with soft plastics on the dashboard and metallic buttons that you don't normally see at this price level. There's a fighter jet theme to the driver's area, thanks to a Head-Up Display that shows your speed, and a joystick style gear lever within easy reach. Even the air-con vents are styled like jet turbines. All of that suggests that the Stinger is a bit of a flyer. The thing is, while the car's wild looks promise a wild ride, the 2.0 GT Line feels like a fairly tame car. Its turbo engine is lively when it revs, and it sings a sweet tune, but these days 0 to 100km/h in 6 seconds feels brisk rather than fast. The Stinger's poise through corners is superlative, too, and it can dance through them with as much balance and coordination as the best K-pop band member. But its agility is matched by reassuring stability, and that tends to lessen the drama of driving the thing, so it ends up being one of those cars that requires you to keep a constant eye on the speedo or risk being relieved of your licence. The main weakness in the Kia's game is the gearbox, which lacks smoothness and can sometimes feel indecisive about which of its 8 gears to give you. Just as well there are steering wheel paddles that let you take command. Overall, the Stinger 2.0 feels much more like a cruiser than a bruiser. If you want a Stinger with some sting, there's the 3.3L GT to think about. Its V6 twin-turbo offers much more punch, and it comes with serious driver kit such as a launch control programme for perfect getaways, adaptive suspension, a quicker steering rack, and bigger brakes. It even has a limited slip differential, which lets the rear tyres grip better so you can launch yourself out of corners in a manner befitting the car's name. The 3.3L V6 costs S$206,999 with COE, which might seem pricey for a car with a Korean nameplate, but in objective terms it offers an enormous amount of equipment and performance for the money. And while the price starts at S$166,999, the cabin feels like something from a car priced at a quarter of a million. The bottom line is that buying the Kia means you'll end up with the best-looking car in the car park, and one that's lovely to sit in and uplifting to drive. In spite of the name, given what you get for your money, its price shouldn't sting. Kia Stinger 2.0L GT Line Engine 1,998cc, 16V, turbo in-line fourPower 247hp at 6,200rpmTorque 353Nm at 1,400rpmGearbox 8-speed automaticTop Speed 240km/h0-100km/h 6.0 secondsFuel efficiency 7.9L/100kmCO2 181g/kmPrice S$166,999 including COEAgent Cycle & Carriage KiaAvailable Now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic January 5, 2018 Share January 5, 2018 http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-motoring/kia-stinger-20-review-koreas-answer-to-bmw IT is often said that youth is wasted on the young, but maybe the flip side of that idea is that wealth is wasted on the mature. But here comes the Kia Stinger to strike a jolly balance between the two. It's an exciting car that isn't expensive (though that is not the same as being cheap), and you can glean both attributes, respectively, by just looking at the thing and from the fact that it's a Kia. The badge might be Korean, but the car was designed in Europe by Europeans, although the Stinger mostly looks like someone took, well, a stinger missile and added wheels. That someone was Frenchman Gregory Guillaume, who heads Kia's design centre in Germany, though his actual source of inspiration was the Maserati Ghibli coupe from the late 1960s. As with the majority of the shapely "grand tourers" of the era, the Stinger has a seductive body with a low, flowing roof, and elongated proportions with a wide stance to give it plenty of presence on the road. Dark chrome on the front grille and wing mirrors add a touch of menace, helping to convey the idea that this isn't a car to be messed with. The rear flares out gently, giving the body the subtlest hint of a Coke-bottle shape, which in turn lets you know that the engine powers the rear wheels. It's built on the classic front engine/rear drive layout that helped build BMW's pedigree, in other words. In spite of that, the pricing is very un-BMW. Two models are on sale in Singapore, with the range kicking off at S$166,999 including COE for the 2.0 GT Line model. The money buys you so much car that you're left scratching your head as to how Kia can turn a profit on these things. For starters, the Stinger is a pretty big machine. It's substantially longer than BMW's 4 Series Gran Coupe, a key rival, and slightly wider. Its size is masked somewhat by how low-slung it is, but the substantial length creates an illusion of space inside even though the low roofline eats into rear headroom. It's more practical than the average sports car, with room for five adults in a pinch, though tall people will find it grim in the back. The boot holds 406 litres of stuff, which isn't huge but should be enough for a weekend getaway for two adult couples. Even the 2.0 model gets plenty of equipment, such as 18 inch wheels, a keyless entry and engine start system, a 10-way power adjustable driver's seat (8-way for the passenger's) with built in ventilator fans, a fancy 8 inch touchscreen system that can mirror your iPhone through Apple CarPlay, and the list goes on. And as dramatic to look at as the exterior is, the cabin is just as stirring. The materials inside are surprisingly posh, with soft plastics on the dashboard and metallic buttons that you don't normally see at this price level. There's a fighter jet theme to the driver's area, thanks to a Head-Up Display that shows your speed, and a joystick style gear lever within easy reach. Even the air-con vents are styled like jet turbines. All of that suggests that the Stinger is a bit of a flyer. The thing is, while the car's wild looks promise a wild ride, the 2.0 GT Line feels like a fairly tame car. Its turbo engine is lively when it revs, and it sings a sweet tune, but these days 0 to 100km/h in 6 seconds feels brisk rather than fast. The Stinger's poise through corners is superlative, too, and it can dance through them with as much balance and coordination as the best K-pop band member. But its agility is matched by reassuring stability, and that tends to lessen the drama of driving the thing, so it ends up being one of those cars that requires you to keep a constant eye on the speedo or risk being relieved of your licence. The main weakness in the Kia's game is the gearbox, which lacks smoothness and can sometimes feel indecisive about which of its 8 gears to give you. Just as well there are steering wheel paddles that let you take command. Overall, the Stinger 2.0 feels much more like a cruiser than a bruiser. If you want a Stinger with some sting, there's the 3.3L GT to think about. Its V6 twin-turbo offers much more punch, and it comes with serious driver kit such as a launch control programme for perfect getaways, adaptive suspension, a quicker steering rack, and bigger brakes. It even has a limited slip differential, which lets the rear tyres grip better so you can launch yourself out of corners in a manner befitting the car's name. The 3.3L V6 costs S$206,999 with COE, which might seem pricey for a car with a Korean nameplate, but in objective terms it offers an enormous amount of equipment and performance for the money. And while the price starts at S$166,999, the cabin feels like something from a car priced at a quarter of a million. The bottom line is that buying the Kia means you'll end up with the best-looking car in the car park, and one that's lovely to sit in and uplifting to drive. In spite of the name, given what you get for your money, its price shouldn't sting. Kia Stinger 2.0L GT Line Engine 1,998cc, 16V, turbo in-line four Power 247hp at 6,200rpm Torque 353Nm at 1,400rpm Gearbox 8-speed automatic Top Speed 240km/h 0-100km/h 6.0 seconds Fuel efficiency 7.9L/100km CO2 181g/km Price S$166,999 including COE Agent Cycle & Carriage Kia Available Now attractive pricing! any big big asterisks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic January 5, 2018 Share January 5, 2018 attractive pricing! any big big asterisks? but word is circulating around that actual price is $173999 to $213999 leh ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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