Reckless Cyclist

[Taipan49]

Sounds like what kolkata did. Ban bicycles on roads.

 

Every picture you see of Kolkata is cars and cars and cars all stationary and not moving.  Sounds like they are onto a winning solution...

Ya, I think put license plates on all ebikes is a more feasible idea.

 

Agree.  Government lost an opportunity with the recent e-bike rules to put this in.  View these as a form of motorbike that has restrictions (ie no expressways).

[inlinesix]

I suggest banning all bicycles on roads with double yellow line marking. The cyclist have to push their bikes on the pavement. And no cycling against traffic flow.

 

Bicycles are allowed to be cycled only on designated cycling path and park connectors with designated cycling path.

 

 

E-bicycles have to go for basic riding test and obtain license to own + ride. Each E-bicycles must bear a visible license plate with LTA tag. Power and speed of such E-bicycle as per current LTA regulation.

 

 

 

Like that everyone happy? No more "tour de france" wannabes.

 

How to enforce total ban on road?  Most importantly, who gonna enforce it & at what cost?

 

Bicycle is not allowed on pavement except certain estate.  Got enforcement meh?

 

PCN has not connect the entire island le.  How?

 

Look at the current e-bike rules.  It is a pedal assist system.  Essentially, it is still a bicycle.  Since LTA is not willing to do license plate for bicycle, the same principal applies to e-bike.

 

[BenTong]

How to enforce total ban on road? Most importantly, who gonna enforce it & at what cost?

 

Bicycle is not allowed on pavement except certain estate. Got enforcement meh?

 

PCN has not connect the entire island le. How?

 

Look at the current e-bike rules. It is a pedal assist system. Essentially, it is still a bicycle. Since LTA is not willing to do license plate for bicycle, the same principal applies to e-bike.

 

think we need to push LTA every day this. Hopefully they get the point

[inlinesix]

think we need to push LTA every day this. Hopefully they get the point

 

Drop LTA an email everyday

[Adrianli]

How to enforce total ban on road?  Most importantly, who gonna enforce it & at what cost?

 

Bicycle is not allowed on pavement except certain estate.  Got enforcement meh?

 

PCN has not connect the entire island le.  How?

 

Look at the current e-bike rules.  It is a pedal assist system.  Essentially, it is still a bicycle.  Since LTA is not willing to do license plate for bicycle, the same principal applies to e-bike.

 

 

ANy LTA Enforcer/TP are allowed to enforce. I did not say total ban on road, only those with double yellow line. Those roads without double yellow line, cyclist still can cycle on them.

 

Bicycle is allowed on pavement, only thing, cannot cycle, have to push.

 

PCN not connected fully, still can dismount and push the bicycle along the pavement which are not cycling path.

 

[inlinesix]

ANy LTA Enforcer/TP are allowed to enforce. I did not say total ban on road, only those with double yellow line. Those roads without double yellow line, cyclist still can cycle on them.

 

Bicycle is allowed on pavement, only thing, cannot cycle, have to push.

 

PCN not connected fully, still can dismount and push the bicycle along the pavement which are not cycling path.

 

 

Currently, there are lack of TP on the road especially expressway.  Are you sure LTA/TP has the willingness to enforce?

 

Bicycle is not allowed on pavement.  It should be continue so.  Pointless to say push because 99% of cyclist will not push.

 

Do you know how disconnected our PCN is?

[Taipan49]

ANy LTA Enforcer/TP are allowed to enforce. I did not say total ban on road, only those with double yellow line. Those roads without double yellow line, cyclist still can cycle on them.

 

Bicycle is allowed on pavement, only thing, cannot cycle, have to push.

 

PCN not connected fully, still can dismount and push the bicycle along the pavement which are not cycling path.

 

 

Completely and utterly impractical.  And completely against city trends globally.

[Adrianli]

Currently, there are lack of TP on the road especially expressway.  Are you sure LTA/TP has the willingness to enforce?

 

Bicycle is not allowed on pavement.  It should be continue so.  Pointless to say push because 99% of cyclist will not push.

 

Do you know how disconnected our PCN is?

 

Have to live with the inconveniences at the mean time while the authorities are working on connecting the PCN. We have to progress one step at a time. Have to slowly get those bicycles off the road and onto designated cycling path. Rome was not built in a day too.

 

Enforcement, leave that to TP and LTA.

 

Getting the mindset of cyclist to cycle on designated cycling path and sharing pavement space with pedestrain would be the right thing moving forward.

Completely and utterly impractical.  And completely against city trends globally.

 

Have to do things slowly. Moving the cyclist from cycling on road to designated cycling path. So allow time for this to happen.

[Taipan49]

Have to live with the inconveniences at the mean time while the authorities are working on connecting the PCN. We have to progress one step at a time. Have to slowly get those bicycles off the road and onto designated cycling path. Rome was not built in a day too.

 

Enforcement, leave that to TP and LTA.

 

Getting the mindset of cyclist to cycle on designated cycling path and sharing pavement space with pedestrain would be the right thing moving forward.

 

Have to do things slowly. Moving the cyclist from cycling on road to designated cycling path. So allow time for this to happen.

 

Getting bikes off the road is a pipe dream.  The PCNs will always be a limited option as they don't have the versatility of the present road network.  Even if they continue with their PCN plans over the next 10-20 years, they will never get you from A to B efficiently and directly solely on PCN.  So cyclists will use a combination of road/PCN for their journeys.  People when using transport from A to B will always look for the most direct/efficient route.

[_acqueline_oh]

i think whats worse then cyclist is just foreigner cyclist who have no clue about traffic rules in Singapore and cycle the way they want

[Taipan49]

i think whats worse then cyclist is just foreigner cyclist who have no clue about traffic rules in Singapore and cycle the way they want

 

I think what's worse than that is poor grammar...

[Adrianli]

Getting bikes off the road is a pipe dream.  The PCNs will always be a limited option as they don't have the versatility of the present road network.  Even if they continue with their PCN plans over the next 10-20 years, they will never get you from A to B efficiently and directly solely on PCN.  So cyclists will use a combination of road/PCN for their journeys.  People when using transport from A to B will always look for the most direct/efficient route.

 

There was a time when Singapore was a fishing village, see what we are now.

 

 

There was a time when Jurong was a swamp land, see what it is now.

 

 

There was a time when sheltered walkways never existed, see what we have now. Sheltered walkways from bus stop all the way to the last block of flats.

 

Be positive.

[Gizmore]

Actually, I feel that there is no need to go to the extend of regulating cyclist by a licensing scheme for that. I agree with LTA that it is a waste of resources. 

 

In this country, it is easy to enact into laws rules that regulate how cyclist are being penalize when they flout traffic rules. Currently we already have Road Traffic (Bicycles) Rules but there is no definition on how cyclist are being penalized. 

 

For a start, any cyclist who flout traffic rules, a simple way to penalize any cyclist who violate traffics rules will be subjected to a fine (since it is our culture anyway). For example, any cyclist who is caught beating the red light will be subjected to a $400 immediate fine. As cyclist does not demerit points system, the fine is simply doubled based on what a motorist would be normally penalized monetarily.

 

Cyclists are required by law to have working front/back blinkers and wear helmet at all times as long as they are cycling on public roads. Failure to comply, immediate fine of $50. (There are a lot of times I really cannot see these foreign workers cycle on not so well-lit roads)

 

The hefty fines will serve as a deterrent to errant cyclist and let them know what they are in for if they flout the rules. Now you just need a few errant buggers to be caught and they share their painful experience with their fellow cyclist, the message goes a long way. This I think is more effective than any kind of education campaign. 

 

Having a definitive fine for errant cyclist does not imply that motorist can drive blindly. The current rule-of-thumb that the burden falls mostly on drivers still holds when it comes to accident with cyclist/pedestrian. 

 

Now on top of that, our Road Traffic (Bicycles) Rules are pretty outdated in the sense that it does not cover other types like scooter (manual or electric powered) etc. About time the rules are amended to cover these other types of transport as well. 

Edited February 15, 2016 by Gizmore

[Ender]

I think what's worse than that is poor grammar...

Still can't beat English Nazis,   

Edited February 15, 2016 by Ender

[Kklee]

I think if no resources, it will be a waste of resources.

 

Actually if see reckless cyclist,  contact LTA or TP?

What about e-scooter on the road,  contact LTA or TP? 

[inlinesix]

This guy got balls of steel

http://www.straitstimes.com/forum/letters-in-print/bike-licensing-where-theres-a-will-theres-a-way?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&link_time=1455504403#xtor=CS1-10

 

 

Bike licensing: Where there's a will, there's a way

Mr Lim Tong Wah ("LTA's stance on bike licensing disappointing") and Dr George Wong Seow Choon ("'Too difficult to do' should not be reason to dismiss idea") made strong arguments in their letters last Saturday on the need for bicycle licensing.

This is especially urgent now, as the cycling population has grown rapidly and is set to grow even more given the Government's push for a "car-lite" nation.

Since 2011, I have written seven letters to the Forum page, which highlighted the danger cyclists pose when invading common spaces meant for pedestrians, and have urged the authorities to rein in dangerous cycling behaviour through education, public campaigns, punitive measures and legislation.

 

Many readers have also written on this subject.

It has been more than four years and I have not discerned any improvement. In fact, the situation has worsened, given the influx of faster and more powerful bicycles and motorised bicycles.

 

The Land Transport Authority's Ms Tan Shin Gee ("LTA: Bicycle licensing not practical"; last Friday) supported her argument by making reference to the Netherlands' absence of a licensing regime even though it has a very large cycling population.

It is fallacious to compare Singapore with the Netherlands, which has the necessary infrastructure and proper cycling behaviour, given its long cycling culture.

In contrast, Singapore's cycling culture is a fledgling one. We have not developed infrastructure for cycling, and many of our cyclists are inconsiderate and irresponsible, and lack civic-mindedness and graciousness. Hence, until and unless we are ready to fully embrace the cycling culture, we need interim measures - educational, punitive and legislative - to ensure that pedestrians' safety is not compromised. Cyclists have a responsibility and duty of care to ensure the safety of pedestrians, instead of expecting pedestrians to constantly look out for them.

While I agree that bicycle licensing is not easy, it is possible, with political will. Like the saying goes: "Where there's a will, there's a way."

The civil service has a very large manpower resource, with a generous dose of scholars. Given this, it would not be impossible to develop a workable licensing regime.

Pedestrians deserve the safety and security of a sanctuary which belongs to them. This is even more crucial now, given our rapidly ageing population.

Lawrence Loh Kiah Muan

[Ender]

I think if no resources, it will be a waste of resources.

 

Actually if see reckless cyclist,  contact LTA or TP?

What about e-scooter on the road,  contact LTA or TP? 

Enforcement problem. Reckless without evidence and victim, police can't do anything. As for e-scooter, by the time the police arrived the rider won't be around.

[Weez911]

Since we all acknowledged that there is a lack of enforcement, can limpei don't pay 7.3% of my company and personal tax since 7.3% ($5bn out of $68bn budget) was allocated to Home Ministry last year?