Reckless Cyclist

[Yewheng]

You are right. We can't stop stupid people from stupid things. But when it affect others around them then it matters.

 

天下无难事，只怕有心人。

By have license for cycling does not help at all. It's just another piece of card and it really waste a lot of resources.

 

Main thing is the cost do not justify for it. We cannot be running policies with cost that keep overshoot. We are just shooting ourselves on our own foot as end up the cost will be thrown back to us and worst is only minimal benefit from the implementation.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Yewheng

[BenTong]

I was reading this. All talk and talk. So how? Anybody got workable ideas? I don't sorry

[Yewheng]

I was reading this. All talk and talk. So how? Anybody got workable ideas? I don't sorry

Have more educational session in schools to educate the good habit of cycling. Heavier punishment for cyclist who cycle dangerously. If drivers can prove that there is no chance that he/she could have enough time to react to avoid hitting the cyclist due to cyclist stupidly, the drivers should not be punished.

 

Maybe these will help in some sense.

 

Example, if cyclist beat red light and there is a vehicle that have no time to react as the driver do not expect it from the cyclist plus at night and bicycle light is not bright enough to be notice. Somehow hit jackpot, the drivers did hit the cyclist and the cyclist was lucky to be alive in hospital. The driver should not be punished at all and then can only say too bad to the cyclist for his/her stupidly to beat red right. The authorities should make it very clear on that, cyclist who beat red light and get knocked down by drivers should not be complaining at all as its their stupid action that cost him or her in hospital. That's too bad.. And hopefully this will encourage cyclist to get the message and to not beat red light as they will be at the losing end.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Yewheng

[BenTong]

Actually am not to bothered with cyclists on the road. More worried about those cyclists and e bikers that zoom the pavements and Park Connectors. So any ideas how to regulate this?

[inlinesix]

Actually am not to bothered with cyclists on the road. More worried about those cyclists and e bikers that zoom the pavements and Park Connectors. So any ideas how to regulate this?

 

For pavements, unless there are more TP on the road, how to regulate?

 

For Park connector, there are clear demarcation between cyclist & pedestrian.  That's really not an issue except:

1. Pedestrian walking on cycle path;

2. Cyclist exceed speed limit.

 

For point 2, put up more signboard to educate cyclist might improve situation.

[Yewheng]

Actually am not to bothered with cyclists on the road. More worried about those cyclists and e bikers that zoom the pavements and Park Connectors. So any ideas how to regulate this?

Maybe build hump and barrier at every few hundred meters at areas that is near housing estate or there is higher traffic of people using the park connector. This will force cyclist to slow down if not they will either fly off and fall down or hit onto the barrier.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Yewheng

[BenTong]

For pavements, unless there are more TP on the road, how to regulate?

 

For Park connector, there are clear demarcation between cyclist & pedestrian. That's really not an issue except:

1. Pedestrian walking on cycle path;

2. Cyclist exceed speed limit.

 

For point 2, put up more signboard to educate cyclist might improve situation.

Ha?

 

More TP on the road- cost goes up again!!!

 

Still back to costs bro..

 

 

What's the use of demarcation? To the those cyclist and e bikers who zoom?

 

Question which is lesser costs? Put more TP on the pavements and Park Connectors. Put more education? License plates for bikes and e bikes?

My personal take is that is the lack or inability to enforce.

[Yeshe]

Actually am not to bothered with cyclists on the road. More worried about those cyclists and e bikers that zoom the pavements and Park Connectors. So any ideas how to regulate this?

I am bothered with cyclist who goes on and off the road from pedestrian walkways as and when it is favourable to the cyclist. Esp those motorized ones.

[BenTong]

Maybe build hump and barrier at every few hundred meters at areas that is near housing estate or there is higher traffic of people using the park connector. This will force cyclist to slow down if not they will either fly off and fall down or hit onto the barrier.

Come back to the argument " why punish the majority of cyclists just becos of a few black Sheeps"..

 

It's the lack or the inability to enforce that is missing. We can do the education, we can put more TP on the roads (not a bad idea- create jobs for Sporeans) but without identification of culprits don't think we make a difference.

I am bothered with cyclist who goes on and off the road from pedestrian walkways as and when it is favourable to the cyclist. Esp those motorized ones.

Agree man. I have a friend's father brushed by one of them. He was hurt. The biker just cabut. Can't even chase after him. Looks local a Pek

[inlinesix]

Ha?

 

More TP on the road- cost goes up again!!!

 

Still back to costs bro..

 

 

What's the use of demarcation? To the those cyclist and e bikers who zoom?

 

Question which is lesser costs? Put more TP on the pavements and Park Connectors. Put more education? License plates for bikes and e bikes?

My personal take is that is the lack or inability to enforce.

 

PCN has all along clear demarcation between pedestrian & cyclist.  Most of the time, it is pedestrian who walk into cycle path.  In addition, e-bike is not allowed on PCN.

 

Lack of enforcement has been a phenomenon for some years.  Not just cyclist, also all other road users on the road.

 

Rather than waiting for enforcement, i would take necessary actions if errant cyclist or ebikers is endangering me or my family.  I had nvr give way to cyclist who use his bell.

[Hamburger]

Pedestrian should be empowered to bring these reckless cyclist down and not held responsible for any injuries sustained during the action.

 

Just give them a good kick and all the best to them.

[BenTong]

PCN has all along clear demarcation between pedestrian & cyclist. Most of the time, it is pedestrian who walk into cycle path. In addition, e-bike is not allowed on PCN.

 

Lack of enforcement has been a phenomenon for some years. Not just cyclist, also all other road users on the road.

 

Rather than waiting for enforcement, i would take necessary actions if errant cyclist or ebikers is endangering me or my family. I had nvr give way to cyclist who use his bell.

The fact is the bikes do speed n e bikes do ride on pcns. So how? Any ideas how to stop them?

[inlinesix]

The fact is the bikes do speed n e bikes do ride on pcns. So how? Any ideas how to stop them?

 

Citizen action.

Pedestrian should be empowered to bring these reckless cyclist down and not held responsible for any injuries sustained during the action.

 

Just give them a good kick and all the best to them.

 

Are you govt sure gonna give citizen that kind of power?

[Nzy]

Pedestrian should be empowered to bring these reckless cyclist down and not held responsible for any injuries sustained during the action.

 

Just give them a good kick and all the best to them.

 

I don't think that is a good idea. Pedestrians allowed to restrain someone who has knocked them down is ok but not whenever they feel a cyclist is being reckless. Cuz different people got different perception of what is reckless. If the cyclist never hit the pedestrian, I don't think it is right for the pedestrian to attack the cyclist.

Your assumptions are at the extreme end. 

How much does the driving license cost now ?

How much is the vehicle registration ?

 

Both add up for 5 pax, less than 1k ?

 

Lets say give you 50% discount of your estimate of $1k, at $500, that is already more than what most recreational cyclists are willing to pay for their bicycles leh. Just by licensing them, the cost of cycling has been doubled.

 

Furthermore, the govt is trying to promote cycling. Do you think they will implement something that will discourage people from cycling?

Actually am not to bothered with cyclists on the road. More worried about those cyclists and e bikers that zoom the pavements and Park Connectors. So any ideas how to regulate this?

 

Write in to LTA to complain. If enough people complain, they will step up enforcement in that area. Recently, there has been more enforcement of the e-bike rules already. Have been seeing LTA stop cyclists on footpaths and checking e-bikes to see if they are approved or not.

[BenTong]

I don't think that is a good idea. Pedestrians allowed to restrain someone who has knocked them down is ok but not whenever they feel a cyclist is being reckless. Cuz different people got different perception of what is reckless. If the cyclist never hit the pedestrian, I don't think it is right for the pedestrian to attack the cyclist.

 

 

Lets say give you 50% discount of your estimate of $1k, at $500, that is already more than what most recreational cyclists are willing to pay for their bicycles leh. Just by licensing them, the cost of cycling has been doubled.

 

Furthermore, the govt is trying to promote cycling. Do you think they will implement something that will discourage people from cycling?

 

 

Write in to LTA to complain. If enough people complain, they will step up enforcement in that area. Recently, there has been more enforcement of the e-bike rules already. Have been seeing LTA stop cyclists on footpaths and checking e-bikes to see if they are approved or not.

Instead of license plate for bicycles , i do think we should put license plates on all ebikes

[Yewheng]

Instead of license plate for bicycles , i do think we should put license plates on all ebikes

Ya, I think put license plates on all ebikes is a more feasible idea.

[Adrianli]

I suggest banning all bicycles on roads with double yellow line marking. The cyclist have to push their bikes on the pavement. And no cycling against traffic flow.

 

Bicycles are allowed to be cycled only on designated cycling path and park connectors with designated cycling path.

 

 

E-bicycles have to go for basic riding test and obtain license to own + ride. Each E-bicycles must bear a visible license plate with LTA tag. Power and speed of such E-bicycle as per current LTA regulation.

 

 

 

Like that everyone happy? No more "tour de france" wannabes.

[Nzy]

I suggest banning all bicycles on roads with double yellow line marking. The cyclist have to push their bikes on the pavement. And no cycling against traffic flow.

 

Bicycles are allowed to be cycled only on designated cycling path and park connectors with designated cycling path.

 

 

E-bicycles have to go for basic riding test and obtain license to own + ride. Each E-bicycles must bear a visible license plate with LTA tag. Power and speed of such E-bicycle as per current LTA regulation.

 

 

 

Like that everyone happy? No more "tour de france" wannabes.

 

Sounds like what kolkata did. Ban bicycles on roads.