Atrecord Supersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 They like the clean look. Their bicycle also got no gears, only one gear. Some even removed the one-way bearing, so must keep pedalling, no free rolling. They brake by cycling in reverse. If it wasn't a helpless kid that they are speeding onto, but a moving train - i wonder if at that (last) moment, will they still prefer the clean look of a bike without brake? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Fixies cannot go backward lah. That's why fixies use coastal brake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=2CSUBgq0t8U&gl=SG They can. There is a difference between singlespeed and fixie. Fixie is fixed gear so the rear wheels just follow the chain whichever direction it turns. There is no freehub in the rear wheels unlike a normal bicycle. Normal bicycle got freehub so when you stop pedaling or pedal backwards, the hub won't engage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leinad8919 Turbocharged January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Quote "The incident took place on a shared path for pedestrians and cyclists along the Serangoon Park Connector at around 11.15am. Responding to queries from The Straits Times, police said a report had been lodged over the incident and they are currently investigating it. Ms Tan, who questioned the need for the cyclist to ride at such "lightning speed", said the man subsequently dismounted and apologised to her husband, Mr Lin Jian Xiong, who was alone at the time with their son, Kyle. Mr Lin told The Straits Times that they had just finished their jog and were heading for breakfast. Kyle had been walking about two metres ahead of him when he spotted a nearby fitness corner and changed direction abruptly to cut across the path. The cyclist, who was approaching from the opposite direction, only noticed Kyle at the last moment and attempted to swerve to his left to avoid a collision." Allow me to play the devil's advocate. Seriously. I don't think the cyclist was riding 30-40km/hr on PCN on a weekend morning, let alone a fixie without brakes. To me, it's more like 15-20km/hr max. Those who cycle knows that it not easy keeping speed above 30km/hr unless on a straight. Also, cyclist failed to brake efficiently probably because he didnt expect the boy to run into his path. I believe some facts was omitted there.... It is a Shared path....the boy changed direction Abruptly.....cut Across path. Sounded like a vehicle turning Right without looking at the opposite traffic condition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Quote "The incident took place on a shared path for pedestrians and cyclists along the Serangoon Park Connector at around 11.15am. Responding to queries from The Straits Times, police said a report had been lodged over the incident and they are currently investigating it. Ms Tan, who questioned the need for the cyclist to ride at such "lightning speed", said the man subsequently dismounted and apologised to her husband, Mr Lin Jian Xiong, who was alone at the time with their son, Kyle. Mr Lin told The Straits Times that they had just finished their jog and were heading for breakfast. Kyle had been walking about two metres ahead of him when he spotted a nearby fitness corner and changed direction abruptly to cut across the path. The cyclist, who was approaching from the opposite direction, only noticed Kyle at the last moment and attempted to swerve to his left to avoid a collision." Allow me to play the devil's advocate. Seriously. I don't think the cyclist was riding 30-40km/hr on PCN on a weekend morning, let alone a fixie without brakes. To me, it's more like 15-20km/hr max. Those who cycle knows that it not easy keeping speed above 30km/hr unless on a straight. Also, cyclist failed to brake efficiently probably because he didnt expect the boy to run into his path. I believe some facts was omitted there.... It is a Shared path....the boy changed direction Abruptly.....cut Across path. Sounded like a vehicle turning Right without looking at the opposite traffic condition. Or like a cyclist dashing across a pedestrian crossing? Like you I doubt the 30+ and do take note of the sudden dash by the kid.... Problem is though, even at 15-20 you are going to fast if there are toddlers around. And it's self evident that the cyclist was going too fast for a shared path. This shows the inherent conflict inevitable in a shared path; and the unsuitability of the PCN for anything other then a gentle leisurely Sunday scenery cycle. And yes, incase it's not clear...The cyclist was a jerk, even if some exaggeration or poetic licence has been taken by mummy / daddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Or like a cyclist dashing across a pedestrian crossing? Like you I doubt the 30+ and do take note of the sudden dash by the kid.... Problem is though, even at 15-20 you are going to fast if there are toddlers around. And it's self evident that the cyclist was going too fast for a shared path. This shows the inherent conflict inevitable in a shared path; and the unsuitability of the PCN for anything other then a gentle leisurely Sunday scenery cycle. And yes, incase it's not clear...The cyclist was a jerk, even if some exaggeration or poetic licence has been taken by mummy / daddy. I personally encounter children running on cycling path in ECP at 11 ~ 12pm. These children was not supervised. I was doing 20km/h only. It is still scary hairy feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 I personally encounter children running on cycling path in ECP at 11 ~ 12pm. These children was not supervised. I was doing 20km/h only. It is still scary hairy feeling. My point exactly - even on a separated path you can see such things, what more on a shared path... I jog regularly on the Punggol Park connector - which joins to the Serangoon one, and on a Sunday there are far too many people to do the type of cyling this cyclist obviously was. It just shows the inherent conflict and there is no easy solution if you want the park connector network to be used for commuting - which is a very different type of thing than a Sunday afternoon bike ride with the kids. The two uses are not very compatible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 My point exactly - even on a separated path you can see such things, what more on a shared path... I jog regularly on the Punggol Park connector - which joins to the Serangoon one, and on a Sunday there are far too many people to do the type of cyling this cyclist obviously was. It just shows the inherent conflict and there is no easy solution if you want the park connector network to be used for commuting - which is a very different type of thing than a Sunday afternoon bike ride with the kids. The two uses are not very compatible In addition, a lot of cyclist do not know speed limit on PCN, including me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda2gal 5th Gear January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Went jogging at Punggol Park Connector once and witnessed 2 collisions between cyclists on that same morning. Weekend morning can be quite crowded there but many cyclists cycle fast and furious, when it comes to downslope and cornering, easy to lose control. We'll nvr know what happened for sure between that cyclist and the boy's father. To the father, the cyclist was fast and reckless, to the cyclist, probably the father didn't manage his son well. But that cyclist should have stayed behind to help the injured, not just offer money and leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Went jogging at Punggol Park Connector once and witnessed 2 collisions between cyclists on that same morning. Weekend morning can be quite crowded there but many cyclists cycle fast and furious, when it comes to downslope and cornering, easy to lose control. We'll nvr know what happened for sure between that cyclist and the boy's father. To the father, the cyclist was fast and reckless, to the cyclist, probably the father didn't manage his son well. But that cyclist should have stayed behind to help the injured, not just offer money and leave. Understand that LTA is reviewing the policy of bicycles/scooters, etc. and the instruction/guidelines is that SGP is going car-lite, so be prepared to accept more bikes/scooters and even electric bikes... I can foresee many more of such accidents happening, when these new guidelines see the light of day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 I go fast when I have a clear view of at least 30m ahead. Would slow down whenever I spot young kids or seniors or beginners ahead n expect them to change course into my path anytime. Exercise caution n common sense in any shared area is the way to go for an enjoyable outing. Anyone can do anything but when something unpleasant (like shit) happens, be a man n act like a gentleman - not act like a coward n try to wiggle away... Offer $1mil also need to apologise sincerely to the poor boy n the father...let alone $10!? Enuf to buy plasters bo??? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Understand that LTA is reviewing the policy of bicycles/scooters, etc. and the instruction/guidelines is that SGP is going car-lite, so be prepared to accept more bikes/scooters and even electric bikes... I can foresee many more of such accidents happening, when these new guidelines see the light of day. New guideline E-bike already issued lah. No e bike in PCN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_ryder 1st Gear January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 I don't cycle anymore but once I was cycling on a PCN about 10-15kmh and a grandmother lost control of a toddler. The toddler was running very erratically, impossible to siam. Rather than bang into him, I veered left and crashed in a tree. Haha! At least the grandmother had the decency to check on me and apologise. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 New guideline E-bike already issued lah. No e bike in PCN i am a regular jogger in pasir ris park and often terrorize by e bike zooming here and there....pui. called police and yes....lip service. Haiz... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 i am a regular jogger in pasir ris park and often terrorize by e bike zooming here and there....pui. called police and yes....lip service. Haiz... Now is enforcement problem lo. But PCN governed by N-parks so I think got to contact N-parks instead. LTA and TP only catch those e-bikes on the footpaths and roads. Recently they have been stepping up enforcement but inside PCN still no enforcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 not only e bikes, nowadays e scooters are also a menace on pavements 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 i am a regular jogger in pasir ris park and often terrorize by e bike zooming here and there....pui. called police and yes....lip service. Haiz... If i am in your position, i would do take photo everytime i see e bike zooming around in Pasir Ris Park. With these photo, i will do monthly "feedback" to Npark & follow up diligently until action is taken. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 when we driving, if a jaywalker cross the road and u buang him, wat is the judgement? driver never keep a look out, see got ppl at the side slow down be extra careful to brake any time. cycling also same. see got ppl in front , I slow down incase any thing 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 If i am in your position, i would do take photo everytime i see e bike zooming around in Pasir Ris Park. With these photo, i will do monthly "feedback" to Npark & follow up diligently until action is taken. jogging dont carry hp, too heavy... ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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