Simple home DIY repairs

[Lala81]

Hi guys. Anyone knows how the storage water heater valve works? 

I have this constantly discharging pipe in my toilet. The volume like getting larger. Few months ago it was a trickle. I assumed it was AC discharge pipe. But now it's lot more. 

Any recommendations for plumber?

 

 

 

[Ct3833]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

Hi guys. Anyone knows how the storage water heater valve works? 

I have this constantly discharging pipe in my toilet. The volume like getting larger. Few months ago it was a trickle. I assumed it was AC discharge pipe. But now it's lot more. 

Any recommendations for plumber?

 

 

 

you mean the relief valve leaking ?  try to see what is the rating of your valve and see if you could replace it yourself . Otherwise, get a quote from one of those plumbers 

 

https://licensedplumber24hrs.com.sg/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyryUBhBSEiwAGN5OCGkij9gzRptplGh9PzrGDMngjWAhZraFZquOIDYv_chaaLlzwJ1kYhoC4tQQAvD_BwE

[Kb27]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

Hi guys. Anyone knows how the storage water heater valve works? 

I have this constantly discharging pipe in my toilet. The volume like getting larger. Few months ago it was a trickle. I assumed it was AC discharge pipe. But now it's lot more. 

Any recommendations for plumber?

 

 

Must trace where the water is coming from.  For my storage heater, it doesn't have a separate relief valve but a combination check/pressure valve installed on the incoming cold water.

Check valve is one-way valve for water flow, so water doesn't flow backwards for whatever reason. Pressure relief is to prevent overpressure inside the tank, as pressure is generated during heating. This is a safety valve, to prevent storage heater from exploding.

This video is for pressure relief valve replacement. However, this is for American standard with large storage water tank

 

[Lala81]

OK. I whatsapped a plumber that was previously recommended in MCF long time ago and I had the number. 

He said its probably the discharge valve spoilt. originally suggested switching off the valves shown in this video before he comes down tomorrow. 

But still leaking the water. In the end shut off this valve worked. But Toilet no water. Nevermind lah let him settle it tomorrow. I also really confused by which valve does what. 

 

[t0y0ta]

38 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

OK. I whatsapped a plumber that was previously recommended in MCF long time ago and I had the number. 

He said its probably the discharge valve spoilt. originally suggested switching off the valves shown in this video before he comes down tomorrow. 

But still leaking the water. In the end shut off this valve worked. But Toilet no water. Nevermind lah let him settle it tomorrow. I also really confused by which valve does what. 

 

You use Joven water heater also!

But your wiring a bit untidy... should be within a conduict

[Lala81]

22 minutes ago, t0y0ta said:

You use Joven water heater also!

But your wiring a bit untidy... should be within a conduict

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

OK. I whatsapped a plumber that was previously recommended in MCF long time ago and I had the number. 

He said its probably the discharge valve spoilt. originally suggested switching off the valves shown in this video before he comes down tomorrow. 

But still leaking the water. In the end shut off this valve worked. But Toilet no water. Nevermind lah let him settle it tomorrow. I also really confused by which valve does what. 

 

Ok. Schematic for joven water heater.

Shutting off the hot water outlet and adjusting the PRV didn't work. 

So only solution temporarily is to shut off the cold water inlet valve. Somehow the cold water flow to the toilet tap and mixer became very weak also which is something the plumber doesn't really understand why over the phone. But he said will check tomorrow. 

[Ender]

4 hours ago, Lala81 said:

Hi guys. Anyone knows how the storage water heater valve works? 

I have this constantly discharging pipe in my toilet. The volume like getting larger. Few months ago it was a trickle. I assumed it was AC discharge pipe. But now it's lot more. 

Any recommendations for plumber?

 

 

 

See liao heart pain, seeing the water just flow non stop.

[Lala81]

28 minutes ago, Ender said:

See liao heart pain, seeing the water just flow non stop.

Haha wait until u see my video of the water meter constantly running. Like I said it was trickling since few months ago. I forgot about it until my wife WA this morning. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by Lala81

[Kb27]

28 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

Haha wait until u see my video of the water meter constantly running. Like I said it was trickling since few months ago. I forgot about it until my wife WA this morning. 

So it looks like your overtemp, pressure relief valve is spoilt, stuck open. It should be a cheap fix, just swap out that valve. But of coz, you have to pay for labour, and that's not cheap.

[Lala81]

20 minutes ago, Kb27 said:

So it looks like your overtemp, pressure relief valve is spoilt, stuck open. It should be a cheap fix, just swap out that valve. But of coz, you have to pay for labour, and that's not cheap.

Yeah should be. Even when the water heater water was heated up when troubleshooting, the water draining out was cold. So our conclusion is that it's just leaking out into the discharge drain even before entering the tank.

What to do. Even the diesel and time cost alone for someone to come down let alone remove pipes, valves etc working on a ladder in a false ceiling. As long as don't cheat me, I'm OK paying lah. After all, I'm also a service provider. Lol. 

[Kb27]

Regarding check valve (one-way valve), should we be using more of these ?

Joven manual does state to install on the cold water pipe. Why check valve ?

It prevents reverse flow. Example rust in the water tank can flow back into the main line.

What about the toilet water cistern ? You may put chemical or bleach inside to clean the toilet, and we sure don't want any of these chemical to flow back into the main line.

And then we may use the main line water for drinking...yucks.

So I guess, if I'm kiasi, I'll put check valves piping to any water container, such as water cistern and storage water heater. But that's just me. 😁

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, Kb27 said:

Regarding check valve (one-way valve), should we be using more of these ?

Joven manual does state to install on the cold water pipe. Why check valve ?

It prevents reverse flow. Example rust in the water tank can flow back into the main line.

What about the toilet water cistern ? You may put chemical or bleach inside to clean the toilet, and we sure don't want any of these chemical to flow back into the main line.

And then we may use the main line water for drinking...yucks.

So I guess, if I'm kiasi, I'll put check valves piping to any water container, such as water cistern and storage water heater. But that's just me. 😁

I laughed when I saw Taobao selling check valves for cisterns. Cos the float valve and high water pressure in the supply pipes will prevent any back flow. 

Now I know there are people who are really KS! 😄

PS I water heater needs check valve as the water in the tank expands and will back flow without the check valve. 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Volvobrick

[Lala81]

14 hours ago, Lala81 said:

Yeah should be. Even when the water heater water was heated up when troubleshooting, the water draining out was cold. So our conclusion is that it's just leaking out into the discharge drain even before entering the tank.

What to do. Even the diesel and time cost alone for someone to come down let alone remove pipes, valves etc working on a ladder in a false ceiling. As long as don't cheat me, I'm OK paying lah. After all, I'm also a service provider. Lol. 

Ok damage is $180. 

I'm not sure how common is this PRV but he went down to jalan besar area to specially buy it before coming up. 
He also helped rectify wrong position for hot/cold pipes for common toilet mixer tap and helped me change the washer for a bidet spray.

my wife said he took about 1hr 15mins to do everything. 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Lala81

[Kklim]

Have a piece of solid polycarbonate sheet (5-6mm thick). Anyone knows a place that provides cutting service? Want to resize into plant shelves. TIA

[Stratovarius]

15 minutes ago, Kklim said:

Have a piece of solid polycarbonate sheet (5-6mm thick). Anyone knows a place that provides cutting service? Want to resize into plant shelves. TIA

Go diy buy a handsaw and saw your own? Or just ask people you know who have access to a workshop.

[mersaylee]

22 minutes ago, Kklim said:

Have a piece of solid polycarbonate sheet (5-6mm thick). Anyone knows a place that provides cutting service? Want to resize into plant shelves. TIA

Some estates have 'borrow a handy tool service'...check with your RC...or get a cheap electric saw online...5-6mm is not thick so should be easy to saw

[Volvobrick]

19 minutes ago, Stratovarius said:

Go diy buy a handsaw and saw your own? Or just ask people you know who have access to a workshop.

Hack saw very hard to saw straight.  Easier to use saws with a wide blade like those for sawing wood.

 

[BanCoe]

4 hours ago, Kklim said:

Have a piece of solid polycarbonate sheet (5-6mm thick). Anyone knows a place that provides cutting service? Want to resize into plant shelves. TIA

I think Dama can do it - they are around Kaki Bukit area where the car workshops are (behind The Frontier) .... google them ...... now the question is ......can they do cutting of your material (they do sell complete material + fabrication)  

Dama Trading Pte ltd 

3029A Ubi Rd 3, #01-98/99, Singapore 408661

Edited August 10, 2022 by BanCoe