Singapore ‘open to’ idea of one-off rise in vehicle population

[Beehive3783]

On 3/6/2024 at 9:12 AM, Daniu82 said:

Cos they are the not the ones who are affected. If they are affected, then you will see everything change very fast. 

They have million dollar salaries, what is a mere 100k to them?

[L23]

Citizen want more car -> issue more COE (collect more tax) -> more car on the road -> more operation revenue earn -> traffic congestion (citizen complain) -> up ERP/ petrol tax/ simi sai tax and cut COE -> no more congestion (everyone happy !) -> cycle repeat

[mersaylee]

On 3/6/2024 at 9:09 AM, Vratenza said:

Reminds me to ask company for higher transport allowance, it has been stagnant for the last 5yrs  .....😁

No one will not cry papa cry mama when they know that my coy has been very "steady" with this perk since the days when it was 1.32/l for 95Ron till now at 2.89/l...😅

[Jamesc]

Pay so high for COE and what? Don't drive?

Leave the car at home because have to pay high usage charge?

Once you pay for the high COE no matter how high the charge you will drive.

Maybe slightly less like to see MIL because of high usage charge.

But going golf club and JB you are not going to take the bus right?

[Jamesc]

Erection coming.

[Daniu82]

On 3/6/2024 at 9:20 AM, Beehive3783 said:

They have million dollar salaries, what is a mere 100k to them?

That’s why they don’t care. They only care if the high COE will affect their vote percentage. 

[ER-3682]

On 3/5/2024 at 7:23 PM, Benarsenal said:

It sounds like they don't know what they want.

Minister Chee still new...give him some time to learn...(Don't learn his Ex-Boss take Football & Concert Tickets).

[inlinesix]

On 3/6/2024 at 9:40 AM, ER-3682 said:

Minister Chee still new...give him some time to learn...(Don't learn his Ex-Boss take Football & Concert Tickets).

He must learn from the 3 that exit MoT with grace

[Jamesc]

I will be very happy if more people can drive used cars.

Its a winning idea.

[Volvobrick]

On 3/6/2024 at 10:12 AM, yishunite said:

Election coming suddenly many trial balloon being floated...

Working class lost support due to high inflation

Older gen lost support due to them falling under tiong spell plus vaccine conspiracy

Sandwich class lost support due to high property price

Middle class / young families ... lost support due to high COE??

Only left HNWIs/landowner class heng they got millions from taylor swift concert

Lol

Land owner class also not happy - property tax going up a lot for them. Only silver service class jin happy! 

[kobayashiGT]

I can see our export market in the future will be bright. 

Only our avg distance travelled for an avg car is around 20,000km. 

With more COE, and a usage based charging system, sure got ppl buy and only drive during weekends one. Those who are working in CBD especially. 
 

Then we have more car to export, and our condition will be get better, country like Zimbabwe would like to do business with us. 

💯 Money from COE

💯 money from distance based charging

💯 More car to export

 

Win - win - win leh!  

[Beehive3783]

On 3/6/2024 at 6:45 AM, Daniu82 said:

Careful studies is the new term for monitoring? I think just collect more money for high mileage users and continue to collect money from normal users since they are starting to use the new IU system. 

Yes, must study carefully how to milk more without the cows making noise  

[tanwm]

On 3/5/2024 at 7:10 PM, Blueray said:

Singapore ‘open to’ idea of one-off rise in vehicle population, with higher usage-based charges: Chee

SINGAPORE is open to reviewing the idea of a one-off increase in its vehicle population, spread over a few years and accompanied by higher vehicle-usage charges to prevent congestion, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat on Tuesday (Mar 5).

But the trade-offs “are not straightforward, and need to be studied carefully before a decision is made”, he added during the debate in Parliament on his ministry’s budget.

Member of Parliament Saktiandi Supaat had asked if distance-based charging could allow Singapore to increase the total vehicle population while still achieving its car-lite vision.

Chee said his ministry was “open to reviewing the idea” of a one-off increase with higher charges. These usage-based charges could include location and time-based fees – as with the existing Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) system – or distance-based charging, where road users pay depending on how far they travel.

“However, it is not feasible to (rely only) on usage-based charges to prevent traffic congestion, as these would have to be set at very high rates, which might not be acceptable to many car owners,” he said.

Singapore would still need other ownership controls and measures such as parking charges, he added.

He also noted that taxi, private-hire car and delivery drivers would face higher usage-based fees as they travel longer distances. “We will need to examine the impact on these groups, though usage-based charging is, in principle, a fair approach,” he said.

The Land Transport Authority began the roll-out of the new ERP 2.0 system’s On-Board units last November. These units are equipped with satellite-based technology that can support distance-based charging, though the statutory board said at the time that there were “no immediate plans” to transition away from the current system.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/transport-logistics/singapore-open-to-idea-of-one-off-rise-in-vehicle-population-with-higher-usage-based-charges-chee

hmmm ... 

Here's the full article for those interested

[tanwm]

And here's the other bugbear...

[Mustank]

Arggghhh f**k pap lah ai yah

[Soya]

Extra COE onli means hantu RadX will change car by the time he hit half tank instead of quarter tank...lol

 

[Jtis]

On 3/5/2024 at 10:58 PM, Macrosszero said:

Gahment will allow more people to own cars but not be able to afford to use them as much as they’d like

Song bo?

Actually, I agree with this approach. I drive, but i do frequently take mrt to locations that are easily accessible, rather than drive. 

I feel the term car-lite needs to be better defined. All along, i thought it actually meant reducing usage rather than reducing ownership. This definition of what they are hoping to acheve is quite fundamental. There are many other countries that impose hefty deterent costs on driving but not ownership, eg. Hefty congestion charge for London, exorbitant parking fees or limited parking in some Aust cities etc.

To me, more PHVs is not car lite. The roads are congested with intensive usage of PHVs, how is it car lite? Actually, i read somewhere that someone said usage based costs will impact PHVs disproportionately. But isn't that fair since they use the road networks disproportionately? Anyway, the costs will be passed on to consumers, the PHV driver doesn't have to bear it.

[Tianmo]

On 3/6/2024 at 6:26 AM, Mkl22 said:

No need to give face… just say LTA screw up…… simi simi bureaucrass….too complicated 🤣

Like me BTC one say is , KNN cock up lah. Keep it short and simple, KISS.