Kopites Supersonic May 16, 2016 Share May 16, 2016 If kah has brought in the jap assemble early instead of from thai I would has gone to kah regardless of the higher price or lower spec. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akszaksz 2nd Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 AD can offer workshop/readily spare parts/recall/warrenty. All these definitely worth a few k more. To some extent, you are right. However many will still consider spec vs price to see whether worth it. Workshop, unless 1st time car owner, otherwise many of the buyers are aware of which workshop is good. (except during the warranty period have to stick with PI's workshop: Readily spare part is usually not a problem for honda popular models, looking back at fit & airwave. Hence if really 3-5k more for a lower spec, probably many might still consider AD Vezel. But definitely not when it's ard 10k price different. My 2 cents =) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 (edited) jdm jdm jdm it's a know fact the jap always keep the best for their market Edited May 17, 2016 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1der 4th Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 jdm jdm jdm it's a know fact the jap always keep the best for their market Haha to me it's more to people mindset. I've also seen cars made in Thailand that are proven to be reliable as well. Spec wise, really depends on AD. They may remove some of the options to cover the overall cost. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 (edited) To some extent, you are right. However many will still consider spec vs price to see whether worth it. Workshop, unless 1st time car owner, otherwise many of the buyers are aware of which workshop is good. (except during the warranty period have to stick with PI's workshop: Readily spare part is usually not a problem for honda popular models, looking back at fit & airwave. Hence if really 3-5k more for a lower spec, probably many might still consider AD Vezel. But definitely not when it's ard 10k price different. My 2 cents =) Me not 1st time car owner. Hahaha honestly I still prefer the AD workshop, though they arent the best. At least I can leave the car and pick it up later with a peace of mind. I can bang table. PI workshop I don't dare. Behave and always nod my head. Hahaha 1k servicing at world auto I really have no confidence to leave the car out of sigh when servicing. Checked with them on the warrenty parts also leave me sweating. Trying to smoke me. Anyway honda wont go too much wrong.Haha Edited May 17, 2016 by Kopites 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akszaksz 2nd Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 Me not 1st time car owner. Hahaha honestly I still prefer the AD workshop, though they arent the best. At least I can leave the car and pick it up later with a peace of mind. I can bang table. PI workshop I don't dare. Behave and always nod my head. Hahaha 1k servicing at world auto I really have no confidence to leave the car out of sigh when servicing. Checked with them on the warrenty parts also leave me sweating. Trying to smoke me. Anyway honda wont go too much wrong.Haha Yup, that's one of the disadvantage getting a PI car, you are at their mercy during warranty period, unless you opt out from their warranty. But there are a couple of reliable PI using not bad Workshops. If you buy from wrong PI, better pray nothing happens to your car, lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtb 6th Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 checklist on Mazda 6 2015 non FL Spare Tire Compartment : Is there a long towing eyelet in there as I realized it is empty only recently? There is one short towing eyelet secured there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 +1 If I spend so much money, it's worth my while buying from a source which allows me worry free servicing. If there's no choice that's a differs thing. But I won't want to save a small amount only to spend more fixing something later.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 Yup, that's one of the disadvantage getting a PI car, you are at their mercy during warranty period, unless you opt out from their warranty. But there are a couple of reliable PI using not bad Workshops. If you buy from wrong PI, better pray nothing happens to your car, lol Hup long. You say reliable or not. PI good doesn't mean workshop good. Hahaha anyway..just enjoy our ride and not let these after sales issue affect us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix0405 5th Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 +1 If I spend so much money, it's worth my while buying from a source which allows me worry free servicing. If there's no choice that's a differs thing. But I won't want to save a small amount only to spend more fixing something later.. Saw a few HRV (not VZ), they are starting to appear on the roads. There are still buyers who prefer AD. Anw, how is the repair of the recall parts for VZ going? Who has got their replaced? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yysiong 3rd Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 Yup, that's one of the disadvantage getting a PI car, you are at their mercy during warranty period, unless you opt out from their warranty. But there are a couple of reliable PI using not bad Workshops. If you buy from wrong PI, better pray nothing happens to your car, lol SG got 100+ PI selling vezel.. price diff also big. PI reputable but they cant gaurantee WS is good too. There will always be ppl choosing lowest price offering, end up unhappy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamapi 6th Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 My PI workshop used W40 engine oil. Will there be any harm to the engine? Need to change? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K20VTEC 2nd Gear May 17, 2016 Share May 17, 2016 My PI workshop used W40 engine oil. Will there be any harm to the engine? Need to change? Quite thick viscosity.. Honda Japan recommends W20 for ambient temperatures up till 39/40 deg celsius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djcoolmax 2nd Gear May 18, 2016 Share May 18, 2016 Quite thick viscosity.. Honda Japan recommends W20 for ambient temperatures up till 39/40 deg celsius yeah... just think of it as more protection for the engine while still under warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic May 18, 2016 Share May 18, 2016 yeah... just think of it as more protection for the engine while still under warranty. That's not more protection. It is like having sex with 2 condom. The engine is not design with so much clearance for 40wt. I would advice to use 30wt if uncomfortable with 20wt. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWbarb 1st Gear May 18, 2016 Share May 18, 2016 Me not 1st time car owner. Hahaha honestly I still prefer the AD workshop, though they arent the best. At least I can leave the car and pick it up later with a peace of mind. I can bang table. PI workshop I don't dare. Behave and always nod my head. Hahaha 1k servicing at world auto I really have no confidence to leave the car out of sigh when servicing. Checked with them on the warrenty parts also leave me sweating. Trying to smoke me. Anyway honda wont go too much wrong.Haha HRV from Kah Motor comes with 7 free servicing (1km - 60km) parts and labour included. Servicing at Kah Motor not cheap, so i think worth $2k ba?? PARF also higher than Vezel by $2.5k due to lower CEVS 5 yrs warranty from AD Even if dun comes with CBTA and Honda Sensing (these features potentially annoys me..), i think HRV seems a not bad choice Prefer to have peace of mind when buying such a big item 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWbarb 1st Gear May 18, 2016 Share May 18, 2016 Kah Motor also gives 1 yr road tax compared to half year by PI $200 rebates for insurance, loan interest 2.18%. In the end not really that much price gap, maybe a few $k more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuen36 Neutral Newbie May 18, 2016 Share May 18, 2016 hi all, there are tons of information on the internet with regards to GDI engine and how the earlier GDI engine causes huge carbon build up on the back of the air intake valve which will normally happens as the miles increases. As far as I'm aware, there isn't a proven work around to totally avoid the carbon build up. I understand for some Toyota GDI engine, they implemented a dual injection (one which is DI and other injection port at the air intake to clean the valve). Mazda claims that they found the solution by somehow keeping their Air intake valve at 400 deg celcius constantly above in order to avoid any carbon build up. I tried searching for Honda work around on GDI carbon build up but no luck. Anybody has any insights on this? Obviously, all latest Mazda, Honda or even Toyota GDI engine are fairly new on the road and may not have travelled long enough for the carbon to build up, which is why we do not yet know how badly those modern GDI engine behave after say 100,000 km and above. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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