Should I migrate?

[Wt_know]

countries i want to emigrate

australia, new zealand,

taiwan, japan

msia - might as well stay in spore?

[Boringchap]

Even if you eventually don't migrate, it is useful to think what your ideal retirement life is like.

 

For me, I think I will still hold on to the Singaporean passport but I probably will spend substantial time overseas.

 

I like Europe.  Hopefully can spend a few months there every year, during retirement. 

[Mercury1]

Actually if one is seriously considering migration must start planning early, most of these countries easiest way to migrate is so called investments. Problem is there are many people from PRC/India etc who can easily match this and requirements for the sought after counties are just getting higher every year.

 

I think Aust/NZD are primary choices but to use skilled profession usually its those household type jobs (plumbing/gardening etc) which gets the most points, even those are age restricted.

 

I'm targeting NZD, just need to start out the approach accordingly.

[Pinobii]

Actually if one is seriously considering migration must start planning early, most of these countries easiest way to migrate is so called investments. Problem is there are many people from PRC/India etc who can easily match this and requirements for the sought after counties are just getting higher every year.

 

I think Aust/NZD are primary choices but to use skilled profession usually its those household type jobs (plumbing/gardening etc) which gets the most points, even those are age restricted.

 

I'm targeting NZD, just need to start out the approach accordingly.

Hi, what's the criteria for nz huh?

 

Sounds like a better place compared to Aust

Even if you eventually don't migrate, it is useful to think what your ideal retirement life is like.

 

For me, I think I will still hold on to the Singaporean passport but I probably will spend substantial time overseas.

 

I like Europe. Hopefully can spend a few months there every year, during retirement.

The downside is the long travel hours, I hate taking long flights now...not sure if body can take it when older though

[Mercury1]

For investor, (don't be surprised at the below figures, they used to be much much higher)

 

Type 1:

1.5M NZD to be invested in various "selected vehicles" which includes govt bonds,there are groups petitioning to change this to riskier vehicles like startups. This category comes with a catch where the investee will need to be in NZD 144 days in a year for 3 years before PR is granted. Age < 65

 

(problem is the more you invest the more points you get, i,e if a PRC investor cannot speak english but invest 5M he will automatically get more points than a bare minimum investor.

 

Type 2:

10M NZD to be invested in various selected vehicles (as above), investor only needs to be in NZD 44 days out of 3 years and no age category. At this level will have less people fighting

 

From my knowledge there is no requirement once you get NZ PR to keep going back to maintain but Aust there is, 3 out of 5 years. This one need to check I not 100%

 

There are other ways of course, skilled migration. But I am not certain of this route, some people also buy small business (cafe etc) to run and get PR. But from my knowledge in Aust hiring locals are always a headache due to their minimum wage and strong labour laws so likely to be the case in NZD also.

 

Flight wise least NZD got direct flight now, last time have to transit thru Sydney double xianz.

 

 

Hi, what's the criteria for nz huh?

Sounds like a better place compared to Aust

The downside is the long travel hours, I hate taking long flights now...not sure if body can take it when older though

 

[Little_prince]

everytime i travel, i want to emigrate

after 1-week i want to take the earliest flight back to spore ... muahahahaha

 

now traveling in japan ...

 

what's that?

 

looks interesting 

 

is that like some xmm JAV mass orgy??

[Little_prince]

hmm

 

not sure why so many of you guys so keen on oz and nzl

 

the winter will kill you when older. lol

 

i was actually thinking of thailand. changmai or something.

 

so much closer to sg and our retirement dollar can stretch a long long long way.

 

http://www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php

 

why bother so much go angmoh countries to be 2nd class citizens?

 

 

For investor, (don't be surprised at the below figures, they used to be much much higher)

 

Type 1:

1.5M NZD to be invested in various "selected vehicles" which includes govt bonds,there are groups petitioning to change this to riskier vehicles like startups. This category comes with a catch where the investee will need to be in NZD 144 days in a year for 3 years before PR is granted. Age < 65

 

(problem is the more you invest the more points you get, i,e if a PRC investor cannot speak english but invest 5M he will automatically get more points than a bare minimum investor.

 

Type 2:

10M NZD to be invested in various selected vehicles (as above), investor only needs to be in NZD 44 days out of 3 years and no age category. At this level will have less people fighting

 

From my knowledge there is no requirement once you get NZ PR to keep going back to maintain but Aust there is, 3 out of 5 years. This one need to check I not 100%

 

There are other ways of course, skilled migration. But I am not certain of this route, some people also buy small business (cafe etc) to run and get PR. But from my knowledge in Aust hiring locals are always a headache due to their minimum wage and strong labour laws so likely to be the case in NZD also.

 

Flight wise least NZD got direct flight now, last time have to transit thru Sydney double xianz.

 

Edited November 10, 2015 by Little_prince

[Pinobii]

For investor, (don't be surprised at the below figures, they used to be much much higher)

 

Type 1:

1.5M NZD to be invested in various "selected vehicles" which includes govt bonds,there are groups petitioning to change this to riskier vehicles like startups. This category comes with a catch where the investee will need to be in NZD 144 days in a year for 3 years before PR is granted. Age < 65

 

(problem is the more you invest the more points you get, i,e if a PRC investor cannot speak english but invest 5M he will automatically get more points than a bare minimum investor.

 

Type 2:

10M NZD to be invested in various selected vehicles (as above), investor only needs to be in NZD 44 days out of 3 years and no age category. At this level will have less people fighting

 

From my knowledge there is no requirement once you get NZ PR to keep going back to maintain but Aust there is, 3 out of 5 years. This one need to check I not 100%

 

There are other ways of course, skilled migration. But I am not certain of this route, some people also buy small business (cafe etc) to run and get PR. But from my knowledge in Aust hiring locals are always a headache due to their minimum wage and strong labour laws so likely to be the case in NZD also.

 

Flight wise least NZD got direct flight now, last time have to transit thru Sydney double xianz.

Thanks bro! Need to consider migration as back up plan :)

hmm

 

not sure why so many of you guys so keen on oz and nzl

 

the winter will kill you when older. lol

 

i was actually thinking of thailand. changmai or something.

 

so much closer to sg and our retirement dollar can stretch a long long long way.

 

http://www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php

 

why bother so much go angmoh countries to be 2nd class citizens?

Thai is a popular choice it seems, my cousin went there to work and migrated there, dun wanna come back liao

 

Alot of ang moh also migrated there

 

Cost of living is low

[Boringchap]

The downside is the long travel hours, I hate taking long flights now...not sure if body can take it when older though

 

Yeah, that's a valid point.  I know some people like yourself who absolutely hate long flights.  Fortunately, I'm perfectly ok with flying for now and my wife is also fine with it. Hopefully it stays that way.  Maybe one reason is that I am quite fascinated with the aviation industry and I keep myself very busy by making flight review videos.     

 

These are my two most recent videos. 

 

Amsterdam to Singapore on Singapore Airlines Economy.

 

Singapore to Amsterdam on Singapore Airlines Economy. 

[Pinobii]

Yeah, that's a valid point. I know some people like yourself who absolutely hate long flights. Fortunately, I'm perfectly ok with flying for now and my wife is also fine with it. Hopefully it stays that way. Maybe one reason is that I am quite fascinated with the aviation industry and I keep myself very busy by making flight review videos.

 

These are my two most recent videos.

 

Amsterdam to Singapore on Singapore Airlines Economy.

 

Singapore to Amsterdam on Singapore Airlines Economy.

Good for u n wifey, u guys are lucky

 

On top of not liking the long flights, I dun like the jet lag too

 

It takes me more than 2 weeks to recover from a trip... ... ...

[Boringchap]

Good for u n wifey, u guys are lucky

 

On top of not liking the long flights, I dun like the jet lag too

 

It takes me more than 2 weeks to recover from a trip... ... ...

 

Yeah, jet lag is tough.  I'm thankful I can cope with it.  Recently, I have had to travel a bit more for work and I have to operate at 100% despite the jet lag.  A lot of coffee helps.

[Ingenius]

Hi, what's the criteria for nz huh?

 

Sounds like a better place compared to Aust

 

The downside is the long travel hours, I hate taking long flights now...not sure if body can take it when older though

Same here. Long flights is a torture for me. When bloods don't circulate for twenty over hours one can die.

 

If have a few million to invest in other country then in the first place there is no need to migrate liao. Cos cost of living is not a problem already. Frankly , where got car and houses are cheap and income from job is high one and tax is low. Lol.the truth is other countries are facing much higher unemployment rate and more homeless people.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Ingenius

[Mercury1]

NZD have to drive alot too just fyi, pending on where your home is it can be like 3 - 5 hours driver after you touchdown at the airport :)

 

Good for u n wifey, u guys are lucky

On top of not liking the long flights, I dun like the jet lag too

It takes me more than 2 weeks to recover from a trip... ... ...

 

[Mercury1]

Kinda depends on lifestyle,

 

I used to work in UK for a stretch and ever since coming back I cannot get used to the weather lol, I perspire like alot even when doing very little. Cold countries are my favorite, I can always throw on another sweater hehe. 

 

Boils down to lifestyle I suppose, I'm the type who like open greenery and spaces, mountain trekking etc. If I had a place which faces snow caped mountains in the morning be perfect , 

 

(and some nice cars in the garage)

 

As for belonging there wise seems the Kiwi's are more receptive to foreigners compared to Aussies, then again if its retirement then the interaction with locals is minimal compared to say working there. And also once you become a common face among the community I won't be surprised if one felt more welcome going to a cafe then say over here.

 

(Ps I spent several years in Aust too so am acquainted with Aussie rules haha)

 

hmm

 

not sure why so many of you guys so keen on oz and nzl

 

the winter will kill you when older. lol

 

i was actually thinking of thailand. changmai or something.

 

so much closer to sg and our retirement dollar can stretch a long long long way.

 

http://www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php

 

why bother so much go angmoh countries to be 2nd class citizens?

 

Swee is that a Go Pro?

 

Yeah, that's a valid point.  I know some people like yourself who absolutely hate long flights.  Fortunately, I'm perfectly ok with flying for now and my wife is also fine with it. Hopefully it stays that way.  Maybe one reason is that I am quite fascinated with the aviation industry and I keep myself very busy by making flight review videos.     

 

These are my two most recent videos. 

 

Amsterdam to Singapore on Singapore Airlines Economy.

 

Singapore to Amsterdam on Singapore Airlines Economy. 

 

 

[Boringchap]

Swee is that a Go Pro?

 

Yeah.  My videos are made with a mixture of go pro, sony compact camera and iphone.  

[Staff69]

It more of a case of too much regulations, bullying of glc and clamping down on creativity.

 

 

Take for example, uber became successful, regulations comes in fast and furious to make sure auntie lucy rice bowl is protected

 

 

The entire economy is structured for people to follow and not be creative.

 

And foreigners are treated much better

 

But that's my 1 man's view.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Staff69

[Baal]

If i could, prob oz, perth or melb. If sea country, ever thought of boleh. But i cant read spk malay.

[Pinobii]

Kinda depends on lifestyle,

 

I used to work in UK for a stretch and ever since coming back I cannot get used to the weather lol, I perspire like alot even when doing very little. Cold countries are my favorite, I can always throw on another sweater hehe.

 

Boils down to lifestyle I suppose, I'm the type who like open greenery and spaces, mountain trekking etc. If I had a place which faces snow caped mountains in the morning be perfect ,

 

(and some nice cars in the garage)

 

As for belonging there wise seems the Kiwi's are more receptive to foreigners compared to Aussies, then again if its retirement then the interaction with locals is minimal compared to say working there. And also once you become a common face among the community I won't be surprised if one felt more welcome going to a cafe then say over here.

 

(Ps I spent several years in Aust too so am acquainted with Aussie rules haha)

 

 

 

Swee is that a Go Pro?

Wah, so good de, u get to work overseas in different Ang moh countries, great exposure u have