What make and model worth renew COE after 10 years

[inlinesix]

Wow....so troublesome....then what is "Unacceptable" for your Case.?1,000Km per Litre of Oil.?

My Mazda 6 used 0w-20 Oil,10,000km used 500ml of Oil..i already unhappy...

 

What's the engine temp of Mazda?

 

Usual engine temp for German car is around 100 deg.  It takes at least 30 mins drive to reach that temp.

 

If everyday also never reach that optimal temp, it means oil + moisture condensation escapes everyday.

 

It is not a good idea to increase the weight of engine oil.

[Mkl22]

i ever heard TSFI 2.0L audi top uo 1L/2 days!!!!!!

 

oil burning is no good la. will poison the catalytic converter in no time. Cats are not cheap. with the garmen so keen on testing emissions, for sure you need to replace the Cat.

[inlinesix]

oil burning is no good la. will poison the catalytic converter in no time. Cats are not cheap. with the garmen so keen on testing emissions, for sure you need to replace the Cat.

 

Sometime these oil burning issue is caused by driving habit.

 

[Hamburger]

It's pretty known to many that Audi 2L TFSI has piston ring issue. Tiagong it's factory defect that uses the inferior quality that could not withstand the turbo charged engine.

[ER-3682]

What's the engine temp of Mazda?

 

Usual engine temp for German car is around 100 deg.  It takes at least 30 mins drive to reach that temp.

 

If everyday also never reach that optimal temp, it means oil + moisture condensation escapes everyday.

 

It is not a good idea to increase the weight of engine oil.

Mazda got very high Compression,so i think Engine Temp should be very high.

[Citros]

Mazda got very high Compression,so i think Engine Temp should be very high.

Noticed it's got the highest compression ratio among all cars.  This is the Skyactive.   They say it squeezes more power,....but I was wondering what would be the downside.   

[DACH]

Noticed it's got the highest compression ratio among all cars.  This is the Skyactive.   They say it squeezes more power,....but I was wondering what would be the downside.   

 

More wear and tear at the pistons? 

[ER-3682]

Noticed it's got the highest compression ratio among all cars.  This is the Skyactive.   They say it squeezes more power,....but I was wondering what would be the downside.   

More Noisy & Rougher.

More wear and tear at the pistons? 

Not as i know....but this Engine needs 0w-20 Oil.

[Luckcent]

Any model of car is good to renew as long as it does not have recurring problems.

[Vinceng]

Very safe bet - almost no PARF to forgo.

 

Can bargain down to $2K and midway if the car is beyond economical repair, you can get back the pro rated COE.

 

Your only loss is the $2K purchase price.

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=736890&DL=2380

[Nine_eleven]

Wow....so troublesome....then what is "Unacceptable" for your Case.?1,000Km per Litre of Oil.?

My Mazda 6 used 0w-20 Oil,10,000km used 500ml of Oil..i already unhappy...

 

try 0W30? or one quart of 0W30 mixed in with the rest of the 0W20?

 

my mark x consumed oil when i used 0W30, but no problems using a thicker oil.

[Nzy]

Very safe bet - almost no PARF to forgo.

 

Can bargain down to $2K and midway if the car is beyond economical repair, you can get back the pro rated COE.

 

Your only loss is the $2K purchase price.

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=736890&DL=2380

 

I think the only problem is getting spares to fix it. Seems like the parts are hard to find now. And can't even order direct from taobao anymore. Got to go through third party forwarder as taobao seems to restrict sales of car parts through their forwarders. Used to order spares for my previous car from taobao as its much cheaper but now very troublesome.

[ER-3682]

try 0W30? or one quart of 0W30 mixed in with the rest of the 0W20?

 

my mark x consumed oil when i used 0W30, but no problems using a thicker oil.

Mazda Specs is 0w-20...so just remain....500ml near to servicing is very little oil used...

[retrozz]

Noticed it's got the highest compression ratio among all cars. This is the Skyactive. They say it squeezes more power,....but I was wondering what would be the downside.

Likely more NO2 exhaust gas emitted due to more efficient combustion according to some studies. VES might be higher banding.

[Ct3833]

This thread was started when COE was $70+k, now PQP is nearly half of what it was used to be. Let me share my thought on this topic base on current PQP, we can discuss and debate about it.

 

First i have to state my two basic criteria fist. A car for renewing COE must to be a fairly reliable type. Next is the comparison has to be like for like, comparison cannot be made using a B&B car against a premium brand.

From net dollar saving point of view, cars that are more worthwhile to renew COE are gnererally the more expensive cars like Mercedes, Porsche etc. Because these cars have a higher ARF, high dealer margin, hugh excise tax etc. By renewing COE of these car would result in a lot of saving comparing to new car of the same brand. Eg. A E200 or a Boxter would save at about $100k each or more. Of course one needs to accept the fact of driving an old car, people who could afford a new premium brand may not want to take that comprimise but this is irrelevant to the context of my post.

 

So does it mean that it is no longer worth to renew COE of a B&B car like a Toyota Altis ? The answer is no, there is still saving but the saving is relatively smaller. Lets stick to Altis as an example, a new Altis today cost about $100k (90k write off). It is cheaper these days because of lower COE and because AD is selling more, they have lower their margin per car comparing to years ago. A renew COE Altis will cost about $50k. Not forgetting repair, the lack of warranty etc, the total saving might be about $30 over a period of 10 year.

 

The point I want to highlight now is renewing 5 years COE using Altis as a reference. By renwing 5 years, the yearly write off would be about $2k (parf) + $3.8k(COE) = $5.8k , throw in repair and higher road tax etc etc, the yearly write off would be close to $8k for a coe Altis, it wont be a lot cheaper even if it is not $8k. So my point is , for a B&B car today, it may not make sense to renew COE for 5 years. If any, has to be a 10 years coe. Of course there would still be a justification for some, like not having enough cash, or every dollar save is every dollar extra, those are exceptions.

Hope my thoughts is correct and would not cause confusion to those who are in the process of renewing COE.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Ct3833

[Mann123]

Of course there would still be a justification for some, like not having enough cash, or every dollar save is every dollar extra, those are exceptions.

 

If someone credit history allows taking a new car loan, they can also take personal loan to renew COE. The interest rate may be higher but still, the total cost of the car will be lower if renew for 10 years. The good cars for renewal are either premium brands or B&B cars with cheaper parts availability. 

[Albeniz]

Teana or Picnic, which is a better candidate for 10 year COE renewal?

[Optramagnum]

Teana or Picnic, which is a better candidate for 10 year COE renewal?

Assuming conditions are similarly good, picnic will be a better choice. Due to the 110-150% road tax loading and its a MPV.