KIA Stinger GT

[teomingern]

It's selling more expensive than the Audi A4 2.0 at the motorshow. It's a pretty good car, but still not comparable to the germans. Asked a sales guy what's the pitch to price it higher than the A4, the guy had no answer, simply said "the car speaks for itself". If i let the car speak for itself, this is a 150k car at best. Other than the hype, rationally it's definitely not a good buy at this price point.

I'm not sure where you get that the Audi A4 is cheaper than the Stinger... cos Sgcarmart lists the A4 2.0 TFSI at $176K while the Stinger is $168K... that's an $8K difference while the Stinger has 244 bhp vs 188 for the Audi... I'm looking at the base model for the A4..

[Mkl22]

If any of us here needs a salesman to convince you to buy a car other than using price, then I question why are you in a Car forum?

I’m sure if you are savvy enough to find your way here, I’m sure you will know as much as or even more than the salesman can have with any product training. So what’s the point in challenging the salesman to convince and “sell” you the car!

If you are a clueless uncle or auntie then yes, the salesman’s job is to sell you the stinger and convince you why it’s better than an Audi A4.

[Soya]

If any of us here needs a salesman to convince you to buy a car other than using price, then I question why are you in a Car forum?

Iâm sure if you are savvy enough to find your way here, Iâm sure you will know as much as or even more than the salesman can have with any product training. So whatâs the point in challenging the salesman to convince and âsellâ you the car!

If you are a clueless uncle or auntie then yes, the salesmanâs job is to sell you the stinger and convince you why itâs better than an Audi A4.

Agree. Can't imagine any petrolhead in MCF actually taking 'advice from a SE on what car he/she shd buy

[Friendstar]

Agree. Can't imagine any petrolhead in MCF actually taking 'advice from a SE on what car he/she shd buy

This is a good one!

[Friendstar]

It's selling more expensive than the Audi A4 2.0 at the motorshow. It's a pretty good car, but still not comparable to the germans. Asked a sales guy what's the pitch to price it higher than the A4, the guy had no answer, simply said "the car speaks for itself". If i let the car speak for itself, this is a 150k car at best. Other than the hype, rationally it's definitely not a good buy at this price point.

Fwd. Period.

[Wyfitms]

Well, there are the keyboard warriors who can type until high heavens.

 

Talk is always cheap.

 

Singaporean buyers are the most difficult ones.

 

Ai pee ai chee ai tua liap nee.

 

Trash the A4 and close the sale... Wow that's just amazing isn't it? ð

Buay tahan sales ppl who talk down other brands

Once this sales from conti brand talked down a Korean brand which I was also considering

I straightaaay walked out

Turn off

[macrosszero]

It would have been so, so easy to trash said A4. 

 

One word. 

 

Three letters.

 

DSG.

[Yeshe]

Means the sales guy is lousy.

 

Now, if you are the businessman and dealer, would you sell a car that is 44k OMV at S$150k? No one wants to make a loss right?

 

A 150k car at best? Rationally not a good buy at this price point? I can't fault you for having that perception but economics wise there's no way it can be sold for that price.

 

i believe the stinger is priced reasonably based on the declared OMV.

However in this context, C&C could have done better by considering to bring in the backbone Stinger and do the add on locally and hence bringing down the OMV. Look at how the forester did it for MI. Low OMV, very aggressive price point vs competitors, confirm bite.

[Fcw75]

Like i said, it was a genuine question, he could at least explain y the stinger was worth the price if he didnt wana thrash the competition. Anyway i duno y u r so offended.. haha.. it seems like one cant even state his opinion (however ignorant it may seem to be) in a forum without getting flamed to death nowadays.. lol

A salesperson who thrash other brand product are the worst.

 

Just admit you are a badge whore.

[fungyee77]

A salesperson who thrash other brand product are the worst.

 

Just admit you are a badge whore.

 

Though to be fair to @Wc1984, not unusual to desire some badge value for a $160 to 200k car, especially in badge conscious Singapore ... 

[flashbang]

Stinger is a lot of car for the money. VFM purchase in terms of features and horsepower.

 

If want refinement, luxury, badge, then can't beat audi...

[emilyp]

Did anyone realise that the HUD is pretty useless? I see that it only display speed info and some warning but other countries seems to be able to display turn by turn navigation. Does anyone know why SG dont have that?

[jjandyy]

For the margin paid to the dealer for the 2.0 version, I don’t think it is fair to expect any badge value on top of the performance and specs offered. Buyer looking for performance AND badge should be prepared to pay another 20% more to account for the brand premium.

[Simplecar]

For the margin paid to the dealer for the 2.0 version, I don’t think it is fair to expect any badge value on top of the performance and specs offered. Buyer looking for performance AND badge should be prepared to pay another 20% more to account for the brand premium.

20% is about there. 

Some KIA car owners already change their "KIA" logos to something else. 

 

Thanks to KIA for daring to dream

[jjandyy]

A lot has been said about changing the KIA logo but yet it has not been done by the Ang mohs on leadership roles in KIA. I believe they probably saw something we don’t. It is easy to change a brand, a logo, but hard to build a new one. In the process, a lot of value could be destroyed.

 

Just like how I always wonder why GMC is called GMC with the simple red letter logo. Or DAF, which can mean something else if you add a T to it.

[Theoldjaffa]

Like i said, it was a genuine question, he could at least explain y the stinger was worth the price if he didnt wana thrash the competition. Anyway i duno y u r so offended.. haha.. it seems like one cant even state his opinion (however ignorant it may seem to be) in a forum without getting flamed to death nowadays.. lol

No one is offended by your posts.

 

You need to be educated that's all.

 

In all honesty, I feel you are the one having your ego bruised and are feeling offended

[Theoldjaffa]

If any of us here needs a salesman to convince you to buy a car other than using price, then I question why are you in a Car forum?

I’m sure if you are savvy enough to find your way here, I’m sure you will know as much as or even more than the salesman can have with any product training. So what’s the point in challenging the salesman to convince and “sell” you the car!

If you are a clueless uncle or auntie then yes, the salesman’s job is to sell you the stinger and convince you why it’s better than an Audi A4.

I see this many times in my working life.

 

Some people who have no intention of buying just wanna challenge sales folks and show their superiority or just to boost their ego by talking down on them.

 

One of my ex boss is like that.

 

Very poor in character. That's why he's my ex boss

[Ake109]

Saw it in the flesh at the show and I really hated the fake vents. Interior was not bad but not quite Audi standard. Headroom was really low for a 4.8m car.

 

Still, for 208k... very tempted.

 

Did I say I hated the fake vents?

 

I hate the fake vents.

You are right... for most buyers, they see 160k and they compare and find they can find Harrier, A4 2.0, Q50, BMW X1 etc. They won't be able to appreciate rear wheel drive, track performance, steering feel etc.

 

In car show, one husband was trying to convince his wife who sat inside the Stinger - asking softly - "How does this feel compared to the Harrier", with a hopeful tone to his voice. Think the wife shot back a dirty look.

 

In my heart I hope eventually he managed to buy the Stinger..... 

 

 

Poor guy. But if his money he should be a man.