VES 2018

[Wt_know]

Wow I didnât realize this! Thatâs a pretty skewed policy

 

my ang moh friend in USA who is a well known technician does not recommend renewing COE for these cars as the problems start appearing after 10 years

your angmoh friend cannot make it la

spore got workshop know how to rebuild porky engine

msia got even more porky that are > 10 years old

to rebuild and repair porky > 10 years old should not be a problem

the problem is the cost .... is it cost effective to rebuild and repair laopok porky ....

Edited April 19, 2018 by Wt_know

[Somewhat1975]

SE of Toyota told me the same things when I was there two weeks ago.

 

She said that their cars failed pm emission and would be subjected to $10k surcharge. This is weird because most of Toyota cars are equipped with port injection engine, which is supposed to have low pm emission.

[Kia7200]

Those ppl who bought their cars 10yrs ago when a new car cost abt $40k example lancer or Vios, now renew coe abt $35k+++. Really damn lucky

 

Cheaper than taking cab

[Mkl22]

your angmoh friend cannot make it la

spore got workshop know how to rebuild porky engine

msia got even more porky that are > 10 years old

to rebuild and repair porky > 10 years old should not be a problem

the problem is the cost .... is it cost effective to rebuild and repair laopok porky ....

Not to mention with new tiered ARF, new porkies cost so much more now. Plus distributors all want to earn lots of profits! Edited April 19, 2018 by Mkl22

[Contipro]

SE of Toyota told me the same things when I was there two weeks ago.

 

She said that their cars failed pm emission and would be subjected to $10k surcharge. This is weird because most of Toyota cars are equipped with port injection engine, which is supposed to have low pm emission.

 

 

If i read and understand correctly, for euro 6 standard PM limit is only applicable for DI engine, where their assumption PI engine "should be" low PM emission. Hence euro they are not checking on this parameter for PI engine.

 

However Singapore is going to apply the PM value on PI engine as well, that's why LTA/NEA need all cars to be checked and tested the PM value otherwise will add VES surcharge.

Somehow where i think 1.6L and above engine the PM value seem exceeded the PM limit versus small cc car.

 

 

p/s: please correct me if the info is incorrect. 

[Battledome64]

Those ppl who bought their cars 10yrs ago when a new car cost abt $40k example lancer or Vios, now renew coe abt $35k+++. Really damn lucky

 

Cheaper than taking cab

I beg to defer. If renew you fork out at least $41k including parf plus 5-6k for replacement of parts so it’s close to $50k

[DACH]

your angmoh friend cannot make it la

spore got workshop know how to rebuild porky engine

msia got even more porky that are > 10 years old

to rebuild and repair porky > 10 years old should not be a problem

the problem is the cost .... is it cost effective to rebuild and repair laopok porky ....

 

If the car has relies much on mechanics rather than electronics, then it should last longer. 

[Kia7200]

I beg to defer. If renew you fork out at least $41k including parf plus 5-6k for replacement of parts so itâs close to $50k

Still abt $5k per yr. Consider quite cheap

 

Drive old car also don't need to worry ppl scratch ur car thingy. So carefree

SE of Toyota told me the same things when I was there two weeks ago.

 

She said that their cars failed pm emission and would be subjected to $10k surcharge. This is weird because most of Toyota cars are equipped with port injection engine, which is supposed to have low pm emission.

Toyota cars already quite ex compare to other brand. After the Ves, really kia si lang

[inlinesix]

If i read and understand correctly, for euro 6 standard PM limit is only applicable for DI engine, where their assumption PI engine "should be" low PM emission. Hence euro they are not checking on this parameter for PI engine.

 

However Singapore is going to apply the PM value on PI engine as well, that's why LTA/NEA need all cars to be checked and tested the PM value otherwise will add VES surcharge.

Somehow where i think 1.6L and above engine the PM value seem exceeded the PM limit versus small cc car.

 

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p/s: please correct me if the info is incorrect. 

 

EURO 6 already outdate liao.

 

Auto industry has been adopting WLTP.

[Fcw75]

Exclude Prius C and Fortuner.

Harrier Turbo too.

 

RAV4 already can’t sell liao, now additional $10K really can say sayonara.

 

I thought the corolla was quoted as ves neutral by the straits time article

The Corolla actually kenna $10K surcharge in Jan but Borneo went to appeal to LTA and was successful so became neutral.

 

This June one think cannot siam liao.

Edited April 19, 2018 by Fcw75

[Cypher]

Harrier Turbo too.

 

RAV4 already canât sell liao, now additional $10K really can say sayonara.

 

The Corolla actually kenna $10K surcharge in Jan but Borneo went to appeal to LTA and was successful so became neutral.

 

This June one think cannot siam liao.

So special can appeal?

[Contipro]

EURO 6 already outdate liao.

 

Auto industry has been adopting WLTP.

 

 

ya ya..

 

WLTP is too new, most car still fall under euro norm..

i think thats why our gov still based on euro6 standard. 

[Fcw75]

So special can appeal?

The Toyota SE told me one, maybe a cock and bill story also...haha.

[Ben5266]

The Toyota SE told me one, maybe a cock and bill story also...haha.

BM:If you don’t wave Altus, COE will be $20k. Approve?

 

LTA:Ok. Ok. Waived for 6 months.

 

[Mockngbrd]

So special can appeal?

because not just Toyoda go appeal. other brand also, that's why pushed back to June/July. For dealers to clear their old stocks asap. But by now if u buy, prob tio liao. 

Edited April 20, 2018 by Mockngbrd

[inlinesix]

ya ya..

 

WLTP is too new, most car still fall under euro norm..

i think thats why our gov still based on euro6 standard. 

 

European manufacturer has adopted WLTP for all 2018 launches le.

 

That's including facelift.

[Somewhat1975]

EURO 6 already outdate liao.

 

Auto industry has been adopting WLTP.

 

WLTP is just a new testing procedure, Euro 6 is still the up to date emission standard.

[Contipro]

European manufacturer has adopted WLTP for all 2018 launches le.

 

That's including facelift.

At the end of the day which one is going to be more stringent?

Last time I read a statement from WLTP with new test method the projected CO2 value will be higher that old euro method.

This means same model higher CO2 may cause the vehicle fall into higher surcharge, to be confirmed.

So higher cost to buyer.

 

From another point of view is good for our environment...