Middle class blues

[Ingenius]

Actually in SG, most of the 'middle class' is not really middle class. We are just credit class, buy BMW or some conti car and then buy condo to show off and try to act more atas but actually we really bo lui. So whenever anything happen these credit class all mati until cham cham one. Those that can afford landed but staying in HDBs are the smart 'upper class' ones. Bcos you have to be a rich man to own a HDB in SG nowsadays.

Thats why i always think that the situation in singapore is, there are many rich people around who can aford the high life, and those who are middle class, they are not anywhere near rich, yet they want to live above their means, cars, condo, holidays etc. it is these group of people who causes the common complaint that life in sgp is stressful and very squeezed, simply because, they are living above their means ! no doubt there are a very small minority of poor people living from hand to mouth, there is a large group of middle class workers who are simply over-stretching. the bottom line is, sgp has moved ahead too fast than its means as we prospered.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Ingenius

[Bobby_tan]

I guess the smart ones are those who can afford private house but stay in HDB, can afford to buy luxury conti cars but buy korea cars.

 

Korea car and conti car no difference what. It's the cc that counts.

[13177]

Korea car and conti car no difference what. It's the cc that counts.

Price no difference?

[Hydrocarbon]

Lol. Now everytime when i received those marketing calls, 100% are pinoy! Thinking am i living in Philippines?

 

I don't mind some marketing calls if I could understand the caller, but quite a few times, either Filipino or Indian FWs call, can't understand more than 1/2 of what they say, end up, I wouldn't be interested in the product or stuff. It's the annoyance that turns me away.

 

I guess the smart ones are those who can afford private house but stay in HDB, can afford to buy luxury conti cars but buy korea cars.

 

Buy Japanese cars instead can? I like JDM/MIJ cars more than MIK cars.. Haha, or best, just take Bus / MRT, taxi if need be, total cost also quite low.

[Kiadaw]

I can see why this thread is going, & can't say I am surprise at all.

 

I can only say, it benefit us more if we recognise out weakness & improve on them, rather then brush them off, or make counter arguements.

[Bobby_tan]

Price no difference?

 

Of course got lah, but the COE (which is the thing that really kills you) is same what. You buy big cc Korean car end up pay a lot also what, not much difference from say a VW or Renault.

[Throttle2]

I can see why this thread is going, & can't say I am surprise at all.

 

I can only say, it benefit us more if we recognise out weakness & improve on them, rather then brush them off, or make counter arguements.

 

[Voodooman]

thats probably because they BELIEVE that their privileged background and powerful connections

 

did not play any part in their current successes

 

they achieved what they have through pure hard work only

 

and everybody who are not as wealthy as them are simply lazy

 

how can people living in ivory towers understand the difficulties that peasants face?

 

 

The ability to empathize with those not fortunate enough to have the privileged background, connections and/or opportunities (work, education, luck factor, etc) to make it big despite many years of hardwork is fast disappearing from the minds of the many of our elites.

[A5SB]

More than 10 years ago, I couldn't even dream of having my own home, my own family, and even having a car. In fact I never took a driving license because I knew I could never afford one this lifetime, so what for take it?

 

I am lucky, I met a wonderful woman, got married and she gave me the impetus to do better and better. Now I can say I have what is called the "stereotypical" Singaporean dream, have a family, above middle income, nice home, nice car, have some spare cash, as a whole I'm doing better than I could possibly dream of 15 - 20 years ago.

 

Talk about dreams and aspirations. The problem nowadays is, do people even dare to dream big anymore? How do people in middle class see their future 5 - 10 years from now?

 

Personally, I feel that in the next decade our middle class people will only find themselves slipping down the economic and social ladder. Unless something drastic is done, we are on a slippery downward slide.

[Hydrocarbon]

I am lucky, I met a wonderful woman, got married and she gave me the impetus to do better and better. Now I can say I have what is called the "stereotypical" Singaporean dream, have a family, above middle income, nice home, nice car, have some spare cash, as a whole I'm doing better than I could possibly dream of 15 - 20 years ago.

 

Gratz on getting a great wife who motivated you to better yourself.

 

Before I got together with my ex, got motivation to do better and better, but when with her, I realised I spent a lot of time with her and taking care of her that I didn't concentrate on my own work. I still got the dream of owning a nice home and car, with enough cash to travel as I wish, but now, need to find the motivation to get there.

[Porker]

I can see why this thread is going, & can't say I am surprise at all.

 

I can only say, it benefit us more if we recognise out weakness & improve on them, rather then brush them off, or make counter arguements.

 

When are you gonna improve your English brudder?

[RadX]

When are you gonna improve your English brudder?

 

 

seems like those who live oversease acquire worse english skills. summore gain a bigotry attitude [laugh]

[13177]

Of course got lah, but the COE (which is the thing that really kills you) is same what. You buy big cc Korean car end up pay a lot also what, not much difference from say a VW or Renault.

True that buying big cc korean car also ended up paying a lot, but you are also buying even much more when you buy conti. Example if korean car monthly is $1000, but those conti monthly should be at least $300-$500 more. To some people maybe difference is small, but to me is big.

[13177]

I don't mind some marketing calls if I could understand the caller, but quite a few times, either Filipino or Indian FWs call, can't understand more than 1/2 of what they say, end up, I wouldn't be interested in the product or stuff. It's the annoyance that turns me away.

 

 

 

Buy Japanese cars instead can? I like JDM/MIJ cars more than MIK cars.. Haha, or best, just take Bus / MRT, taxi if need be, total cost also quite low.

I cant stand those marketing calls from these people, many times even i told them i am not interested, they will call again and again and again! Seems like they are not updating their contact list. :angry:

Edited July 2, 2013 by 13177

[Yewheng]

I cant stand those marketing calls from these people, many times even i told them i am not interested, they will call again and again and again! Seems like they are not updating their contact list. :angry:

 

Maybe they trying luck, out of 100 times maybe 1 time you finally give in. [laugh]

[13177]

Maybe they trying luck, out of 100 times maybe 1 time you finally give in. [laugh]

You mean they will call 100 times?!

[Jman888]

When are you gonna improve your English brudder?

 

 

he communicate better in german now

[Lala81]

When are you gonna improve your English brudder?

 

he's learning deutsch lah. not English...