Tohto Hypersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BenTong said: Come peacetime, would strongly recommend each household to stock: 2 boxes of surgical mask per head = 100 pieces 1 box of N95 per head 30 bottles of hand sanitizer per head Every 3 years (expiry) throw and replenish.. Don’t have.. Fine $5k or 3 weeks attachment with undertaker 30 bottles of hand sanitizer to la kopi ah... Wahaha. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Weez911 said: Why make my son go NS when there has been no war in Singapore for the past 75 years? Total defence my foot. #IBLogic The same thinking when people think why stock up on masks and hand sanitisers when we can just buy it when we need? Never had such prolonged shortage before ever (in early jan 2020). I believe the thinking is that if there is need to wear masks suddenly, the plan is slowly release reserves and ramp up supply. But now whole world is short of masks. Like the British in singapore. Plan for war is british and american fleet come to Singapore naval base. But when war came the whole world was at war. Kind of unprecedented. Blame them for not being prepared? Yea. I blame them but its more of how they speak. Level of preparedness I reserve comments. Cos it's easy in hindsight to say more reserves. But in reality it's a thin line to that and over prepared. We have people scolding the govt for keeping too much reserves when we have poor among us. I think if the govt had kept 1 billion masks and this epidemic had not happened, we will be scolding the govt for spending on useless masks when we have poor with no food. We comment on NS cos now there is no war. If the govt relaxes NS and a decade down the road a war breaks out, we will probably scold the govt again. Peace. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mustank said: Not me leh I got prep pro mask You buy wrong thing lar... up to early jan taobao selling 3 ply masks, sgd4 for 200... if you stock up, you now can pay for condo liao lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbian78 6th Gear February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Weez911 said: Why make my son go NS when there has been no war in Singapore for the past 75 years? Total defence my foot. #IBLogic The main reason why there had been no war. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philipkee said: I believe the thinking is that if there is need to wear masks suddenly, the plan is slowly release reserves and ramp up supply. But now whole world is short of masks. is the way of releasing, for sure the same batch of kiasu/kiasi people will go everyday to snatch the supply even if you release 10 billion over a week, there will still people who dun get to buy. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Arogab said: Forgive this chap. This in the first place should not be published. That's why it is call a "leak". Secondly, anyone saw him in the TV recently during CNY?? He has gotten so much white hair and looks much older. I wonder if I have white hair and he got so much more. Is he working so much harder than us?? He got no MCF to joke with undertaker lah nothing a 5 dollars hair dye cant fixed .. as for those hordes the food and stuff, there should be a mass comms from homes and welfare services where the poor can benefit from such waste ... Send a comms out on where to place those items. Edited February 20, 2020 by Sdf4786k 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/coronavirus-kills-two-in-iran-says-health-ministry 2 case and 2 death in iran but only tested with covid after they died (100%), probably dun bother about testing. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Camrysfa said: For the past 5 days I have been seeing this ad in the ST. Today's ad grew in size to about a quarter page; when I first saw it on Sat, it was a bit smaller , maybe about 17cm x 12cm. why need to run the ad so many days? How much does it cost per day? How many newspapers? How much do they give out a year? wouldn't the ad cost be better used to give the ang pao through other means? There must be a reason for doing it ....😲 I think they're being responsible. Cos there's many older gen who may need a lil more effort to reach. Anyway... is better those some who insist religious gatherings must continue unchanged... not targeting any group in particular hor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Galantspeedz said: You buy wrong thing lar... up to early jan taobao selling 3 ply masks, sgd4 for 200... if you stock up, you now can pay for condo liao lol Do this kind of jek ah thing to pay house mlmlwml 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichibawa 5th Gear February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 I have a box of N95 and surgical mask at home but that was always in my first aid kit and to prepare in case the PSI exceeds the healthy range. However I am not using them because it is not necessary. (I feel lah... don't flam pls...) When I was in Thailand a week ago I did have my mask on but I feel the mask doesn't necessary protect me when its on. No matter how you secure it there will still be gaps especially when you exhale. It traps all moisture inside so make sense to wear when one is sick. Also being unfamiliar to have something covering my mouth and nose I kept adjusting it and not to mention that it is uncomfortable which made me scratch the area that was covered. I think I shall heed Dr. Leong's advise, your face is sacred. Also wearing a mask only covers half of the number of orifices on the head. The other half is still expose which is susceptible to virus infection since the little buggers travels by water vapor/droplets. Now I understand why the PRCs wear a water bottle over their head. Will get major headache when people keep knocking on the bloody bottle. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Ct3833 said: $30k can buy a mask manufacturing machine liao, of course that is probably not a high end equipment. Taobao have . If it's bolehland, invoice probably marked up to $3M. Everyone will take a cut, machine produce low quality and low quantity. Then will breakdown and then their political clowns will blame SG for hoarding their masks... Yes better we produce it ourselves 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philipkee said: The same thinking when people think why stock up on masks and hand sanitisers when we can just buy it when we need? Never had such prolonged shortage before ever (in early jan 2020). I believe the thinking is that if there is need to wear masks suddenly, the plan is slowly release reserves and ramp up supply. But now whole world is short of masks. Like the British in singapore. Plan for war is british and american fleet come to Singapore naval base. But when war came the whole world was at war. Kind of unprecedented. Blame them for not being prepared? Yea. I blame them but its more of how they speak. Level of preparedness I reserve comments. Cos it's easy in hindsight to say more reserves. But in reality it's a thin line to that and over prepared. We have people scolding the govt for keeping too much reserves when we have poor among us. I think if the govt had kept 1 billion masks and this epidemic had not happened, we will be scolding the govt for spending on useless masks when we have poor with no food. We comment on NS cos now there is no war. If the govt relaxes NS and a decade down the road a war breaks out, we will probably scold the govt again. Peace. Again, back of envelop calculation, we will need about approximately 825m masks for a usage of 5 months for 5.5m population. Before this virus outbreak, a box of 50 masks costs $6. If the govt is making bulk purchase, I'm confident we can get it at $5 max, possibly less. This will equate $0.10 for a mask, or $82.5m over 5 years as the masks have useful life of 5 years, giving us $16.5m per year if we stagger our purchase over 5 years. This is only 0.1% of our 2019 MINDEF expenditure of $15bn. Or 1.9% of PMO annual budget at $872m. For my NS post, I was trying to emphasize the importance of preparation. But IB logic is we don't need to prepare for a viral outbreak event since they don't happen regularly. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didu Turbocharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 COVID-19: First patient in Singapore discharged after 28-day stay, counts himself lucky - report https://sg.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-first-patient-in-singapore-discharged-after-28-day-stay-counts-himself-lucky-140953759.html I saw video of our Chinese newspaper interview uncle. He looks pretty happy. Luckily SGH not billing him for the hospital stay. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Weez911 said: Why make my son go NS when there has been no war in Singapore for the past 75 years? Total defence my foot. #IBLogic that explains it I Guess.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoCharlie Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BenTong said: Come peacetime, would strongly recommend each household to stock: 2 boxes of surgical mask per head = 100 pieces 1 box of N95 per head 30 bottles of hand sanitizer per head Every 3 years (expiry) throw and replenish.. Don’t have.. Fine $5k or 3 weeks attachment with undertaker Can pm the clinic which has ample flu vaccine? 🙏🙏🙏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 Just now, BenTong said: that explains it I Guess.. Activated and working hard for govt? Oh, is this you or your wife or your girlfriend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ody_2004 said: errr.. what if otherwise? If no NS war come? this like buying insurance.. buy and hope don use! whahahahahaha... I oso got 2 sons.. one going in April.. This is interesting. Shouldn't we apply same logic to stock up X number of masks per Singaporean as insurance? Another outbreak of disease here is many times more likely than war - Nipah, Bird Flu, SARS and now this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic February 20, 2020 Share February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Weez911 said: Again, back of envelop calculation, we will need about approximately 825m masks for a usage of 5 months for 5.5m population. Before this virus outbreak, a box of 50 masks costs $6. If the govt is making bulk purchase, I'm confident we can get it at $5 max, possibly less. This will equate $0.10 for a mask, or $82.5m over 5 years as the masks have useful life of 5 years, giving us $16.5m per year if we stagger our purchase over 5 years. This is only 0.1% of our 2019 MINDEF expenditure of $15bn. Or 1.9% of PMO annual budget at $872m. For my NS post, I was trying to emphasize the importance of preparation. But IB logic is we don't need to prepare for a viral outbreak event since they don't happen regularly. After this episode perhaps they might do it. Then in the next outbreak, anyone not wearing masks will be labeled Idiotic, irresponsible and causing panic! ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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