Foldable bicycle

[Shiq]

Hi guys! 
I'm looking to buy my first foldie. Torn between Crius Velocity D & Sava Z1. Any advice which one is worth getting in terms of ride performance, ease of folding and compactness after fold?

Thanks!

[Yeshe]

6 hours ago, Shiq said:

Hi guys! 
I'm looking to buy my first foldie. Torn between Crius Velocity D & Sava Z1. Any advice which one is worth getting in terms of ride performance, ease of folding and compactness after fold?

Thanks!

U want compact go for brompton, 3sixty or pike. Crius or sava folding not as compact 

[Heartlander]

15 minutes ago, Yeshe said:

U want compact go for brompton, 3sixty or pike. Crius or sava folding not as compact 

Yes that is definitely true. 

How much you willing to spend is definitely an important factor. Most will want to work within the budget set out, but some might think it worthwhile increasing it to get a Brompton after considering all the other factors.

To me the next question is how you will be using the foldie. Do you just want to bring it to a favourite park to cycle or you cycling to work whereby need to have small format factor of foldie when folded. For example I got a foldie for my wife to put in her car boot to bring to East Coast Park to cycle, so no need to buy the most compact foldie. In fact most car boot should be able big enough to accommodate 2 such foldies like Crius Master D/Sava Z1.

Another factor would be ride quality as it will determine how far you can go with the bike without feeling tired. I have not owned a Brompton before so cannot comment on ride quality between it and any Crius, but my experience with Master D is very favourable that is almost comparable to a racer. Maybe some with both bikes can comment on the ride quality difference to allow for better assessment on whether worth to spend more on a Bromptom base on ride quality if folded form factor is not an issue.

But if you are the LV type of person who like bling bling, then go for Brompton for maximum effect lah. You will most likely to get it eventually anyway as you will always be worrying people looking down on you because of your foldie.

[Shiq]

Thanks guys for the feedback! Brompton is way out of my budget & I don’t want to spend that much on something that I will use once a week or once every fortnight. Hence why I’m looking for something about $1000 or lesser. 
 

I will also be storing the bike in my car boot most of the time cos don’t want my place to look cluttered with too many things. I will also be cycling at parks / PCN only. 

Thank you every one for your input! I think I might settle with the Crius. 

[Smurfie24]

I’m new to foldable bike. Previously on my giant mtb. I have been reading a lot of reviews but couldn’t decide on Crius Velocity, Crius Master D, FS-S and Fnhon. Budget around $900.

 

Any recommendations?

[Ct3833]

This is interesting , not a foldable but a "foilable". The hydrofoils help reduce the water resistance significantly, making cycling in the water a lot easier. 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2021 by Ct3833

[BanCoe]

4 hours ago, Ct3833 said:

This is interesting , not a foldable but a "foilable". The hydrofoils help reduce the water resistance significantly, making cycling in the water a lot easier. 

 

 

This seems to be like a lake with calm waters......... wonder how it works in the seas with waves going over the bike and make you prone to sinking?? Just my tots

 

[Knighthunter]

On 5/18/2021 at 1:56 PM, BanCoe said:

This seems to be like a lake with calm waters......... wonder how it works in the seas with waves going over the bike and make you prone to sinking?? Just my tots

 

Could be ued in our reservoirs like kayak. 

[Freeder]

1 hour ago, Knighthunter said:

Could be ued in our reservoirs like kayak. 

Which reservoir?

Dun wanna risk kanna pull down...

[Volvobrick]

Most would not be able to pedal up to speed. So perfect to add a battery and motor. And the SGNs can terrorise others on the reservoirs instead of on the pavements. 

[Meanmachine]

On 18 May, 2021 at 9:32 AM, Ct3833 said:

This is interesting , not a foldable but a "foilable". The hydrofoils help reduce the water resistance significantly, making cycling in the water a lot easier. 

 

 

     If we can use this Hydrofoil to visit neighbouring countries would be fun and most accessible, arrive in style and check-in custom 

[inlinesix]

Just now, Meanmachine said:

     If we can use this Hydrofoil to visit neighbouring countries would be fun and most accessible, arrive in style and check-in custom 

From Singapore to Batam is 45km.

[Voodooman]

On 1/11/2021 at 8:29 AM, Adrianli said:

I also cycle a Crius Velocity. Posted a few photos here.

@Yeshe and @Adrianli

Wheel size.

Can you share your journey from 20" foldie to a 16" Brompton, the plus and minus, etc?  I like the design and compactness of the Brompton (when folded) but I just can't quite get over the 16" wheel and the way it handles. 

The 20" are definitely faster and more stable in terms of ride quality.  I can understand the Brompton is a city bike suitable for short commute that complements a wider public transport system but many of you are using it like a touring / racing bike? Am I missing something? Do I need to buy one to appreciate the ride quality over a longer period? 

I tried the 20" Tern and Dahon recently, i thought the ride were much better but the test rides were rather short. Just trying to understand if people are buying Brompton for the brand. 

[Adrianli]

1 hour ago, Voodooman said:

@Yeshe and @Adrianli

Wheel size.

Can you share your journey from 20" foldie to a 16" Brompton, the plus and minus, etc?  I like the design and compactness of the Brompton (when folded) but I just can't quite get over the 16" wheel and the way it handles. 

The 20" are definitely faster and more stable in terms of ride quality.  I can understand the Brompton is a city bike suitable for short commute that complements a wider public transport system but many of you are using it like a touring / racing bike? Am I missing something? Do I need to buy one to appreciate the ride quality over a longer period? 

I tried the 20" Tern and Dahon recently, i thought the ride were much better but the test rides were rather short. Just trying to understand if people are buying Brompton for the brand. 

20" Definitely faster than 16" and lesser effort to maintain cruising speed. I chose to get a Brompton for its compact size and it will be a keeper so must consider longevity of spare parts supply too. I am still riding both of my foldies.

[Yeshe]

1 hour ago, Voodooman said:

@Yeshe and @Adrianli

Wheel size.

Can you share your journey from 20" foldie to a 16" Brompton, the plus and minus, etc?  I like the design and compactness of the Brompton (when folded) but I just can't quite get over the 16" wheel and the way it handles. 

The 20" are definitely faster and more stable in terms of ride quality.  I can understand the Brompton is a city bike suitable for short commute that complements a wider public transport system but many of you are using it like a touring / racing bike? Am I missing something? Do I need to buy one to appreciate the ride quality over a longer period? 

I tried the 20" Tern and Dahon recently, i thought the ride were much better but the test rides were rather short. Just trying to understand if people are buying Brompton for the brand. 

I got the brompton first originally for my wife before the crius. Unfortunately she feels it uncomfortable, so I end up with both bikes.

I rotate my bikes and if I am my riding with a grp of roadies on mix road route, I will bring crius anytime. If I m riding alone or purely pcn, either brompton or crius is good. 

[Ct3833]

2 hours ago, Meanmachine said:

     If we can use this Hydrofoil to visit neighbouring countries would be fun and most accessible, arrive in style and check-in custom 

Across to johar  might be ok but I am not sure about going to bantam though 

[Heartlander]

Beside speed another consideration would be if you want to integrate riding with public transport or lim kopi in coffee joints or Macdonald. Brompton bikes can easily be collapsed and pushed unassumingly while typical 20" foldie will look unwieldy. Like if you want to push a Bromptom into NTUC or Giant to do grocery shopping which is 10min drive from home, it is very do-able. No need to lock it outside and worry gotten stolen.

[Knighthunter]

13 hours ago, Voodooman said:

@Yeshe and @Adrianli

Wheel size.

Can you share your journey from 20" foldie to a 16" Brompton, the plus and minus, etc?  I like the design and compactness of the Brompton (when folded) but I just can't quite get over the 16" wheel and the way it handles. 

The 20" are definitely faster and more stable in terms of ride quality.  I can understand the Brompton is a city bike suitable for short commute that complements a wider public transport system but many of you are using it like a touring / racing bike? Am I missing something? Do I need to buy one to appreciate the ride quality over a longer period? 

I tried the 20" Tern and Dahon recently, i thought the ride were much better but the test rides were rather short. Just trying to understand if people are buying Brompton for the brand. 

I have Tern, Tyrell and Bromptons. You need to test ride Brompton to understand ride quality and it’s nimbleness. It’s very good leisure bike and on PCN. If talking on smooth surface and road riding 20” foldies is much better, can’t beat the physics with bigger wheels in term of speed. Distance wise no effect depend on your legs, leisure ride with Brompton will take longer than Chiong with 20” foldie. Anyway there are Brompton riders that so strong that could maintain average 30 kmh, or modding it to super lights that spend few thousand more on original Brompton price. One ridea titanium crank for Brompton will cost about 1k it could get one decent 20” foldie.  

Edited May 21, 2021 by Knighthunter
My spelling is crap