[Joseph22]

his lecturer say wan... he just repeat lah.. chey..

oie.. i never talk to him of course i cannot say lah.

 

give me some face can or not.

Edited December 4, 2012 by Joseph22

[Wind30]

There's real problems with these parts of your statement.

 

If there's real and valid grievances, and they are not being listened to or acted upon, then what else should be done?

 

If there are real grievances and we don't support people in speaking out, then it is our failure as human beings. You would really support an ongoing injustice for the sake of a law? Laws are supposed to reflect morality, not govern morality. An unjust law is as good as no law at all.

 

Seriously, life is never fair. Ultimately, do you know that they had tried every other way?

 

Even if they had, are they supposed to damage others to gain attention? To me it is like going on a riot just because you have grievances.

 

This is not about "speaking out". This is about holding a strike. I think there is a huge difference. I support them speaking out all they want...

[Wind30]

didnt i show you the link in the other thread? also did you not read the opening letter post by TS??

 

hack, this news was even reported on our MSM. not to say TR, TOC and even Yahoo have coverage.

 

surely, if you do not trust our MSM you will had read the other website or Vice versa?

 

???? what talk you? I can't find anything that says that they are forced to the new contract or pay a penalty for breaking their bond.

 

As people has pointed out, you are usually given a choice to stay with the old contract or leave without any penalty if a new contract is proposed.

 

I don't think if they leave because of the new contract, they have to pay a bond.

[Wind30]

I'm sorry, I've failed. I truly do not have the tolerance or patience to suffer these fools who continue to harp on an issue that has long been laid to rest and unanimously decided on a long time ago. People are still asking if strikes are good for Singapore or not!!!!!

 

It's like freaking tribesmen living in the depths of the Amazon rainforest asking if tsunamis were good for countries which were ravaged by it. And totally missing the questions that meteorologists and geologists are asking and answering in order to better understand why tsunamis happen and how we can prevent or at least predict them and dampen their damaging effects. And then throwing spears at the meterologists and geologists for not asking the same dumb questions of whether tsunamis are good or bad together with them.

 

God, it's like a horror movie come alive.

 

 

duh.....

 

I think you are saying that the tsunami stands for "strikes/worker protests/unhappiness", while people like Vincent is the "meteorologists/geologists".

 

duh...... who is throwing spears at the meteorologist?

 

All I see is people throwing spears at the workers building a flood barrier to protect against tsunami.

 

Actually I think meteorologist and geologist is kind of useless in predicting tsunami so your analogy is kind of err....

[Lightbringer]

I reserve my right to ignore stupid people.

 

You're not worth my time, seriously. Next please.

[Lightbringer]

Is really an eye openess with so many highly educate forumers with great vision/insight postings. Indeed I did Learnt quite a fair bit from most of the posts here. On the whole it took me at least 45min to finish the whole TS article. Bo pian..pardon mine inadquate academic background to fully comprehend the article.

 

Just one question that is lingering on my mind. Do china transport industry indeed pay much better than singapore counterpart?

 

Adjust the pay for PPP first, and we shall see. But the sheer number of foreign bus drivers from China here tends to indicate that there is indeed quite a significant difference in PPP-adjusted pay for this job in both countries, won't it? Or at the very least, a significant lack of similarly-paid opportunities in China.

[Lightbringer]

not fan of PAP... but he use PAP tactics... cannot convince? spread fear... you want your wife to work as maids???

 

I love this line, never fail to LOL when somebody brings it up again.

 

Fear mongering usually works best on the selfish and the weak-minded. Plenty of examples here.

[Lightbringer]

Wow! Don't you guys need to sleep to get enough rest for today's working day??

 

Then again, somebody advised us to stop thinking like worker bees!

 

I think, bottomline is that no one view or way of thinking is 100% valid and correct. This is not maths or physics governed by unbreakable natural laws.

 

You give your views, on whichever side or aspect, somebody can always pull out one or two examples to counter it. So it's an unending argument.

 

It's not unending if the "examples" pulled out by one side doesn't makes sense, is irrelevant to the argument, or is factually wrong.

[Lightbringer]

There's real problems with these parts of your statement.

 

If there's real and valid grievances, and they are not being listened to or acted upon, then what else should be done?

 

If there are real grievances and we don't support people in speaking out, then it is our failure as human beings. You would really support an ongoing injustice for the sake of a law? Laws are supposed to reflect morality, not govern morality. An unjust law is as good as no law at all.

 

 

Proud to have you as a fellow citizen. Regardless of race, language or religion!

[Lightbringer]

Oh really.... You missed the part where went on trance shouting at GCT, "where is our money"? I don't believe in gutter politics.... Also, if he is so right, why is he so docile now? While I admire his determination, I don't like his style.

 

Another classic example of a simple-minded sheep being led to the slaughter by the butcher.

 

You're so fixated on the shouting episode as blown up by the media that you've entirely lose sight of what that entire incident was about. Can I ask, do you even recall what was Chee questioning GCT about? Albeit in an aggressive manner, but what was the context of the issue or the crux of the matter so to speak?

 

You do realize you've been hoodwinked by the media into ignoring the real issue at hand by sensationalizing one incident, or do you not?

[Ben5266]

Darryn... Congratulation for taking up Singapore Citizenship!

 

you no good. Never tell us first.

[Lightbringer]

All this a political wayang technique.

 

he could be trying to protray himself as been emotional. if you speak to him directly, you will be overwhelm by his knowledge and vision.

 

this is what my Uni Lecturer a PAP supporter tell me.

 

so if it come out of my Lecturer who is also a PAP supporter. there is much truth in it.

 

I know Chee personally. And I have vast amounts of respect and admiration for him.

 

Anybody who have been in this forum for some length of time will know how violently opposed to organized religion I am, with my pet peeve being Christianity and Christians. Yet I am humbled by Chee's tolerance, grace and capacity for forgiveness. This is apart and above my admiration for his intellectual capability, vision and largess of heart. And he reminds me that I have a long way to go in my evolutionary journey indeed.

 

I'm just happy to see Chee is no longer alone but have plenty of supporters to fight his battles alongside with him now.

 

PS: Watch the video of the on-stage debate between Michael Palmer and Chee, pre-GE 2011. I was seething with anger at how Palmer was so outright contemptuous and disrespectful to Chee. Not Chee himself though!

[Ender]

Darryn... Congratulation for taking up Singapore Citizenship!

 

you no good. Never tell us first.

The kiwi become durian liao... Welcome bro.. So when you gonna do NS?

[Wind30]

I reserve my right to ignore stupid people.

 

You're not worth my time, seriously. Next please.

 

duh... then why are you replying to my post? self pwn..

[Lightbringer]

Because I enjoy pointing out massive stupidity to the whole world. Everybody need a laugh sometimes ;)

[2BDriver]

Dr CSJ is no ordinary comrade, he had stayed in the Live Train Track for too long and sacrificed too much. Not many will understands why he keeps doing this risky stance............but I can feel that he is actually warning us to be awaken ahead of dangers.

[Felipe]

Strike = Illegal

Mass resignation = legal

Bus drivers chose the wrong option IMO...

 

Mass MC legal too, but that cost money.

[Lightbringer]

Dr CSJ is no ordinary comrade, he had stayed in the Live Train Track for too long and sacrificed too much. Not many will understands why he keeps doing this risky stance............but I can feel that he is actually warning us to be awaken ahead of dangers.

 

"comrade" sounds too communistic for my liking leh! But otherwise I have no quibbles with what you've said.