GrabHitch/RYDE-car pooling services

[inlinesix]

Nowadays grab getting more ex. Ppl sure choose taxi. This industry customer are price sensitive

 

Depends on timing.

 

When taxi has all those surcharge, i believe Grab is cheaper than cab.

[13177]

More ppl take taxi. I got one relative driving taxi he said now taxi business getting better

About 20-30% more in his daily income

Especially now grab hardly got promo

I not sure about others, for me now hardly got promo, i seldom take PHV liao. Last time take more PHV due to promo, fare can be quite attractive and so can be lazy to take public transport. Lol.

[Davidklt]

They are not cheap. Minimum fare is $8.

 

But the taxi industry as a whole also needs to improve their service. I still see taxi drivers cherry picking their passengers.

 

This is why it made some people fed up and go for Grab/Uber.

 

 

Nowadays grab getting more ex. Ppl sure choose taxi. This industry customer are price sensitive

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Davidtkl

[13177]

They are not cheap. Minimum fare is $8.

 

But the taxi industry as a whole also needs to improve their service. I still see taxi drivers cherry picking their passengers.

 

This is why it made some people fed up and go for Grab/Uber.

Grab also can cherry picking their passengers la. Only uber cannot do such thing, so now all back to square one again whether it is taxi or Grab.

[Penknife]

in Economics there is a concept called Marginal Rate of Substitution.

 

If taxi is expensive, i take phv. if both are expensive i'll take public.

[Davidklt]

If you turn down X number of passengers,  you would not get your incentives.

 

In a way, there are some form of incentives to improve acceptance rate.

 

Grab also can cherry picking their passengers la. Only uber cannot do such thing, so now all back to square one again whether it is taxi or Grab.

 

[13177]

If you turn down X number of passengers,  you would not get your incentives.

 

In a way, there are some form of incentives to improve acceptance rate.

The apps would know whether drivers got reject passenger? Maybe not the driver wants to reject passenger but too slow in reacting and the job goes to other drivers nearby?

[Jman888]

Actually after the merger grab has lesser surge. Sometimes even peak hours no surge at all. Those that say grab getting expensive probably because they maybe get used to uber no surge fare for short distance.

 

For short distance no surge uber fare wins hands down. This is due to grab min starting fare is $6, whereas for uber is $3.. Justgrab vs uberflash. Grab every increase is $1, whereas uber is more dynamic the increase is based on multiplier surge. So that lies the difference.

 

For long distance journey, nowadays grab is a lot cheaper then uber Lao as grab long distance nowadays no surge at all. So the fare compare to the 3, grab no surge, uber with moderate to high surge and taxi. Confirmed grab will win in fare.

 

 

have lah, these few days with peak hour couple with heavy rain, i saw the surge of 3X.

[Davidklt]

This used to be the way. They have since updated the app to auto-assign.

 

The apps would know whether drivers got reject passenger? Maybe not the driver wants to reject passenger but too slow in reacting and the job goes to other drivers nearby?

 

[13177]

This used to be the way. They have since updated the app to auto-assign.

Grab now become auto-assign to driver? Driver cannot cherry pick passenger liao?

[Nzy]

Grab now become auto-assign to driver? Driver cannot cherry pick passenger liao?

They can reject if they want. But will affect the acceptance rate. So they will try not to. Unless the place the passenger going is really some ulu place that the driver don't mind to sacrifice. Lol.

[Yewheng]

have lah, these few days with peak hour couple with heavy rain, i saw the surge of 3X.

This kind of surge is getting more and more rare for Grab. Before the merger it happened quite frequently.. After the merger.. If driver can get this kind of surge, considered himself lucky.

 

Look at my fare collected on Sunday.. Mind you grab fare is before 20% commission..

 

 

This is quite bad considered it is Sunday. Before merger with uber if I complete 25 trips, my fare collected will be around 250 to 270 after uber commission. So effectively the income now dropped by about 20%. In line with what I take for all the fares mostly no surge.

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[13177]

This kind of surge is getting more and more rare for Grab. Before the merger it happened quite frequently.. After the merger.. If driver can get this kind of surge, considered himself lucky.

 

Look at my fare collected on Sunday.. Mind you grab fare is before 20% commission..

 

 

 

This is quite bad considered it is Sunday. Before merger with uber if I complete 25 trips, my fare collected will be around 250 to 270 after uber commission. So effectively the income now dropped by about 20%. In line with what I take for all the fares mostly no surge.

I believe the PH is going to die soon, think business not as good when uber and grab are here. And seems like people would take PHV mostly due to there are promotion given, now no more promotion and most people would not take PHV liao.

[Yewheng]

I believe the PH is going to die soon, think business not as good when uber and grab are here. And seems like people would take PHV mostly due to there are promotion given, now no more promotion and most people would not take PHV liao.

Not really, there are actually a lot of riders will take phv with or without promotion. The only problem now is that there are too many phv drivers Lao.

 

Look at the statistics, it's quite scary, it overlook taxi by more then 1 times already. Even accounting for those seldom drive or part time, the number of full time phv drivers I believe will still win taxi.

 

Many riders just want fast, convinent and hassle free ride. Most important is no unpleasant incident. However of all these, riders keep encounter ride now as fast as it too very long to arrive, now that hassle free as still need to guide drivers where is the exact pick up location, some even encounter very unpleasant experience with phv drivers. So the tide is changing abit that some switched back to take taxi. Then when grab give promo, they just take, when no promo go back taxi as preferred mode.

 

I believe this is not grab want.. But grab is now facing this type of situation where the experience side for rider still quite bad.

 

Cherry pick is already an issue and if it get worsen then act, it will be too late.

Grab expection does not align with drivers expection and that causes problem as drivers unhappy and do all these stupid stunt to Sabo grab like purposely pick up rider and then just don't want to pick up rider and go round and round until rider cancel. (this one now happen less often due to uber now is gone, but there are still many drivers do that).

Grab management just focus too much on their vision without look deep at drivers concern especially. There are many concerns and they are either very slow in implementing something or feel they are right and drivers are wrong. Grab app really still have a lot of bugs and this bug many drivers.

 

So with all these things, sooner or later grab will slowly see number of riders decrease and go to other platform like Ryde, gojek and taxi and etc.

[Fcw75]

I believe the PH is going to die soon, think business not as good when uber and grab are here. And seems like people would take PHV mostly due to there are promotion given, now no more promotion and most people would not take PHV liao.

Grab got vision la. They also know cannot purely do PH so they have diversify their business to e-payment, food delivery, etc.

[Thinker00]

Grab isnt really focused on customers and more emphasis placed on profiteering from the market.

 

Now that Uber is gone they assumed that Uber customers will turn to them but given the lack of promo code by Grab and how the drivers go around using different tactics to make end meets, customer aint going to be held random by Grab. so taxi are back in the market.

 

There are so many excess PHV drivers and it ends up with Grab drivers being in excess.

 

Not really, there are actually a lot of riders will take phv with or without promotion. The only problem now is that there are too many phv drivers Lao.

Look at the statistics, it's quite scary, it overlook taxi by more then 1 times already. Even accounting for those seldom drive or part time, the number of full time phv drivers I believe will still win taxi.

Many riders just want fast, convinent and hassle free ride. Most important is no unpleasant incident. However of all these, riders keep encounter ride now as fast as it too very long to arrive, now that hassle free as still need to guide drivers where is the exact pick up location, some even encounter very unpleasant experience with phv drivers. So the tide is changing abit that some switched back to take taxi. Then when grab give promo, they just take, when no promo go back taxi as preferred mode.

I believe this is not grab want.. But grab is now facing this type of situation where the experience side for rider still quite bad.

Cherry pick is already an issue and if it get worsen then act, it will be too late.
Grab expection does not align with drivers expection and that causes problem as drivers unhappy and do all these stupid stunt to Sabo grab like purposely pick up rider and then just don't want to pick up rider and go round and round until rider cancel. (this one now happen less often due to uber now is gone, but there are still many drivers do that).
Grab management just focus too much on their vision without look deep at drivers concern especially. There are many concerns and they are either very slow in implementing something or feel they are right and drivers are wrong. Grab app really still have a lot of bugs and this bug many drivers.

So with all these things, sooner or later grab will slowly see number of riders decrease and go to other platform like Ryde, gojek and taxi and etc.

 

[Davidklt]

They might morph into another CDG. But they have GrabHitch and Grabshare which are not offered by taxi companies.

 

It would be a matter of time they monetise Grabhitch.

 

Grab isnt really focused on customers and more emphasis placed on profiteering from the market.

 

Now that Uber is gone they assumed that Uber customers will turn to them but given the lack of promo code by Grab and how the drivers go around using different tactics to make end meets, customer aint going to be held random by Grab. so taxi are back in the market.

 

There are so many excess PHV drivers and it ends up with Grab drivers being in excess.