Grab/Ryde issues and charges

[Nzy]

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/no-grab-or-uber-those-young-kids

 

How many people know about this? I doubt many do.

 

Honestly I thought Uber/Grab would have had same exception as taxi in this case. Clearly not.

 

I think most did not know and even if they knew, they will keep quiet cuz which driver wants to have no passenger after travelling all the way to the pick-up point and finding out that the passenger has children.

[13177]

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/no-grab-or-uber-those-young-kids

 

How many people know about this? I doubt many do.

 

Honestly I thought Uber/Grab would have had same exception as taxi in this case. Clearly not.

Taxi can take young children?

[Nzy]

Taxi can take young children?

 

Yes. Taxi exempted from that rule. All other vehicles need to put the child in booster/child seat if below 1.35m.

[Benarsenal]

I think most did not know and even if they knew, they will keep quiet cuz which driver wants to have no passenger after travelling all the way to the pick-up point and finding out that the passenger has children.

 

I think if awareness is lacking then Uber/Grab need to be clear with their drivers about this.

[Jman888]

many probably will still take the risk to pick up passengers with toddler, especially during CNY visiting. 

[Blueray]

Tougher to claim against private-hire cars: Lawyers

 

 

Parties involved in accidents with private-hire cars operated by companies such as Uber and Grab tend to have a harder time settling their claims, according to lawyers who act for insurers.

 

These vehicles are involved in accidents more frequently than other passenger cars, added insurers.

 

Major insurers that cover these fleets told The Straits Times that private-hire cars, which have more than tripled in number to 51,000 in the last three years, are 30 per cent to 50 per cent more likely to meet with an accident.

 

Typically, the number of accidents reported represents 10 per cent to 15 per cent of the passenger car population. But for private-hire cars, that figure is 20 per cent to 25 per cent.

 

General Insurance Association president A.K. Cher said: "These cars are on the road longer than the normal passenger car.

 

"Many of them are also driven by very young and inexperienced drivers.

 

"And they also rely heavily on their mobile devices for navigation, so (the drivers) can be distracted."

 

The concern is underscored by data on Uber-owned Lion City Rentals, which is looking for a new insurer.

 

Its fleet grew from 1,412 last February to 8,676 in November. In that period, its cars were involved in more than 2,100 accidents, incurring close to $10 million in claims.

 

The figures come from an insurer vying for Lion City's business.

 

"It is hard to gauge its accident rate because the fleet has grown so fast," said an underwriter in that firm. "But assuming an average of 5,000 (cars in the fleet), it would translate to a ratio of 40 per cent."

 

This is similar to the accident rate for taxis and commercial vehicles.

 

Insurers did not want to be named as they were bidding for Lion City's contract. A current insurer, Ergo, did not wish to comment either.

 

Uber declined to comment when approached.

 

Meanwhile, lawyers acting for insurers said they are seeing more cases involving private-hire cars, and these tend to be harder to settle.

 

All private-hire cars must be insured, but their premiums are higher, reflecting their risk exposure.

 

Mr Patrick Yeo, a partner at Withers KhattarWong, said his firm had handled an injury claims case in which the private-hire driver was underage and therefore uninsured.

 

"In a case of an uninsured private-hire car driver, the damage to the cars involved is also (deemed) uninsured," Mr Yeo said.

 

"The owner of the car damaged by the private-hire car will have no recourse against the insurers of the private-hire car. They would have to sue the driver or owner of the private-hire car directly."

 

He cited another case where a Grab driver was not covered by the insurance policy because he had less than two years' driving experience - the minimum declared in the policy.

 

Mr Anthony Chey, a partner at RHTLaw Taylor Wessing, said he had represented a pedestrian who was knocked down by an Uber car at a pedestrian crossing in 2015.

 

"The case appeared simple enough as liability was clearly against the vehicle driver," Mr Chey said. But it dragged on for nearly a year because the insurer did not respond, despite reminders.

 

"Along the way, I learnt that... the case was delayed because of some policy issues regarding the insurance coverage," he said.

 

"The claim, which should have been settled within three months, ended up taking 11 months."

 

Insurers and lawyers advise motorists involved in a road accident to request the other driver's identity card details, in case the person is a private-hire driver.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/tougher-to-claim-against-private-hire-cars-lawyers

[Hamburger]

And what is the garment or lta doing other than collecting coe ?

[Jman888]

uber is attracting more drivers with their rental car fleet as compare to grab, although uber is more expensive.

[Tianmo]

uber/grab, they are everywhere, and worse than taxi, drive with eyes open all.     

[Galantspeedz]

Did you all notice, once uber and grab setup company in sg... You now see very little complaints on taxi reckless driving lol

[Jman888]

thanks to uber and grab, i am able to call cab and take cab from taxi stand without much waiting. Did check on uber pricing, so much higher due to the surge.

[Benarsenal]

Jialat. Now all the problems surfacing already. 

[inlinesix]

thanks to uber and grab, i am able to call cab and take cab from taxi stand without much waiting. Did check on uber pricing, so much higher due to the surge.

B4 Uber/Grab, do u have this opportunity？

[Jman888]

B4 Uber/Grab, do u have this opportunityï¼

no lor, that's why i want to thank them [laugh]

[Fcw75]

Govt also happy coz less people KPKB about lack of taxi during peak hours.

[Spurman]

Tougher to claim against private-hire cars: Lawyers

 

Parties involved in accidents with private-hire cars operated by companies such as Uber and Grab tend to have a harder time settling their claims, according to lawyers who act for insurers.

These vehicles are involved in accidents more frequently than other passenger cars, added insurers.

Major insurers that cover these fleets told The Straits Times that private-hire cars, which have more than tripled in number to 51,000 in the last three years, are 30 per cent to 50 per cent more likely to meet with an accident.

Typically, the number of accidents reported represents 10 per cent to 15 per cent of the passenger car population. But for private-hire cars, that figure is 20 per cent to 25 per cent.

General Insurance Association president A.K. Cher said: "These cars are on the road longer than the normal passenger car.

"Many of them are also driven by very young and inexperienced drivers.

"And they also rely heavily on their mobile devices for navigation, so (the drivers) can be distracted."

The concern is underscored by data on Uber-owned Lion City Rentals, which is looking for a new insurer.

Its fleet grew from 1,412 last February to 8,676 in November. In that period, its cars were involved in more than 2,100 accidents, incurring close to $10 million in claims.

The figures come from an insurer vying for Lion City's business.

"It is hard to gauge its accident rate because the fleet has grown so fast," said an underwriter in that firm. "But assuming an average of 5,000 (cars in the fleet), it would translate to a ratio of 40 per cent."

This is similar to the accident rate for taxis and commercial vehicles.

Insurers did not want to be named as they were bidding for Lion City's contract. A current insurer, Ergo, did not wish to comment either.

Uber declined to comment when approached.

Meanwhile, lawyers acting for insurers said they are seeing more cases involving private-hire cars, and these tend to be harder to settle.

All private-hire cars must be insured, but their premiums are higher, reflecting their risk exposure.

Mr Patrick Yeo, a partner at Withers KhattarWong, said his firm had handled an injury claims case in which the private-hire driver was underage and therefore uninsured.

"In a case of an uninsured private-hire car driver, the damage to the cars involved is also (deemed) uninsured," Mr Yeo said.

"The owner of the car damaged by the private-hire car will have no recourse against the insurers of the private-hire car. They would have to sue the driver or owner of the private-hire car directly."

He cited another case where a Grab driver was not covered by the insurance policy because he had less than two years' driving experience - the minimum declared in the policy.

Mr Anthony Chey, a partner at RHTLaw Taylor Wessing, said he had represented a pedestrian who was knocked down by an Uber car at a pedestrian crossing in 2015.

"The case appeared simple enough as liability was clearly against the vehicle driver," Mr Chey said. But it dragged on for nearly a year because the insurer did not respond, despite reminders.

"Along the way, I learnt that... the case was delayed because of some policy issues regarding the insurance coverage," he said.

"The claim, which should have been settled within three months, ended up taking 11 months."

Insurers and lawyers advise motorists involved in a road accident to request the other driver's identity card details, in case the person is a private-hire driver.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/tougher-to-claim-against-private-hire-cars-lawyers

What a slap in the face..

 

These private taxis wanabe in apps obviously never screen drivers... underaged drivers and less than 2yrs exp also recruit...

 

Obviously they flaunt the rules and laws and should be punished by law for doing these.

 

And yet our laws seems like a kitten hiding behind their mum's skirt as silent as an ant....

[Jp66]

^{​Will this happen in SG?}

 

Uber halts services in Taiwan after racking up $50 million in fines in a month

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/uber-halts-services-in-taiwan-after-racking-up-50-million-in-fines-in-1-month

 

TAIPEI - Global car-hailing firm Uber is putting the brakes on its ride-sharing services in Taiwan after racking up NT$1.1 billion (S$49.9 million) in fines within a month in the wake of a new law prohibiting unlicensed taxi services.

The company said in a statement on Thursday (Feb 2) it was suspending its operations with effect from Feb 10 with the hope of  "restarting dialogue" with the government to "innovate the transport technology" in Taiwan. 

The decision came amid reports that the Directorate General of Highways, an arm of the Taiwan's Transport Ministry, had ordered Uber to cease operations.

 

 

 

Taiwan media reported that the company had been slapped with total fines of some NT$1.1 billion since Jan 6, when an amendment to the Highway Act that raises the maximum fine for illegal passenger transport services to NT$25 million took effect.

Calling the pullout a "tough decision", Uber said it is "an ordinary citizen that is facing unprecedented penalties for providing passengers with a safe ride".

 

 

It also said that the government is "moving away from embracing innovation and 21st century trends in transportation".  

The latest move comes ahead of the launch of the company's taxi services under its UberTaxi platform later this month. The launch is expected to go ahead.

Since Uber launched its service in Taiwan in 2013, it had made 15 million trips, the statement added. 

Some one million people in Taiwan have downloaded the Uber app and there are 10,000 active drivers.

Ceasing its ride-sharing services in Taiwan is the latest setback for Uber, which has faced pushback from regulators and drivers in many other markets. It pulled out of China last August and suspended its taxi and van services in Hong Kong."

 

 

[Jman888]

if they allow Grab here, no reason to ban uber unlike taiwan.