Ceiling fan

[Vratenza]

Got a question:

 

Please look at this pic:

 

Does the current ceiling hook look like it is universal?  With the newer KDK model in mind. 

 

I just realised that the lazy installer just stuff the white safety wire into the hole on the ceiling.. Not attached to anything! Grrrhh.... 

 

 

[Mustank]

I like diy

In fact I diy whenever I can

But this is too hardcore for me

[Kb27]

 

Got a question:

 

Please look at this pic:

 

 

Does the current ceiling hook look like it is universal?  With the newer KDK model in mind. 

 

I just realised that the lazy installer just stuff the white safety wire into the hole on the ceiling.. Not attached to anything! Grrrhh.... 

 

 

You'll have to remove the fan first. Then see what's the hook size.

I think most of them would be a good fit, since fan has more or less the same weight.

 

As for the wire, just get some cable ties to tie down.

After it's covered, no one will notice it.

[Voodooman]

My ceiling about 3.5 m high.....this model just about sufficient... Will be better if the stem is abit longer to make it closer to the ground.

You have high ceiling (landed or PH?), a longer stem is good, I understand it is not so much the distance between the fan and the ground (that is a safety concern) but the length of the stem that determines the optimal speed/airflow of the fan. Too short and the fan can't operate efficiently beyond a certain speed.

 

Note DC motors are more expensive, they are energy saving and very quiet but once the circuit board expired, they can be expensive to replace. I was keen to install the Haiku ceiling fan early this year but my 2.8m ceiling means it can't get to optimal airflow/ max speed, so had to drop the ideal. Installed an Elmark DC fan instead, it works very nicely and silently.

[mersaylee]

 

Got a question:

 

Please look at this pic:

 

 

Does the current ceiling hook look like it is universal? With the newer KDK model in mind.

 

I just realised that the lazy installer just stuff the white safety wire into the hole on the ceiling.. Not attached to anything! Grrrhh....

Not sure about the fan et al...your camera is darn solid. Must be at least an iPhone 6 or Z5. So clear that I thought it also captured a er...err...peekaboo?

 

Look like it's false ceiling there.

[Vratenza]

This model of kdk ceiling fan has a white secondary safety (non-electrical) wire meant to be looped around the hook and attached to the motor unit.

From what I understand, it is a "safety net" in case the bolt and nut fails.

Chances of that happening is remote but then again... If it is there, might as well use it properly.

 

You'll have to remove the fan first. Then see what's the hook size.
I think most of them would be a good fit, since fan has more or less the same weight.

As for the wire, just get some cable ties to tie down.
After it's covered, no one will notice it.

Edited December 31, 2016 by Vratenza

[Mkl22]

Is the fan and the hook attached to the concrete ceiling? For the old false ceilings using wood. It's safe enough to have the fan just attached to the wooden frame of the false ceiling. The new false ceiling using metal frame, you need to attach it to the concrete.

[Vratenza]

Mine is top floor in the apartment.  Above my false ceiling is the sloping tiled roof already. 

 

My current fan,  the shroud is already at the last notch which can be seen in my pic.  That means it is at the maximum distance from the ceiling for that model. 

 

I guess for modern ceiling fans, alot more electronics meant usually the circuitry fails first before the motor unit itself. My current kdk lasted me 5yrs which I am not complaining. It is still usable but just noisy. Amortised over 5 yrs,  the cost is reasonable. I am just hoping the new DC model can give me another 5 years of silent air circulation. 

 

You have high ceiling (landed or PH?), a longer stem is good, I understand it is not so much the distance between the fan and the ground (that is a safety concern) but the length of the stem that determines the optimal speed/airflow of the fan. Too short and the fan can't operate efficiently beyond a certain speed.

Note DC motors are more expensive, they are energy saving and very quiet but once the circuit board expired, they can be expensive to replace. I was keen to install the Haiku ceiling fan early this year but my 2.8m ceiling means it can't get to optimal airflow/ max speed, so had to drop the ideal. Installed an Elmark DC fan instead, it works very nicely and silently.

 

[Vratenza]

It is a galaxy S7. I down resolution to make sure i can upload here. 

 

Lol,  just realised what u meant... The reflection from the shiny screw head. 

 

 

Not sure about the fan et al...your camera is darn solid. Must be at least an iPhone 6 or Z5. So clear that I thought it also captured a er...err...peekaboo?

Look like it's false ceiling there.

 

[Vratenza]

Is the fan and the hook attached to the concrete ceiling? For the old false ceilings using wood. It's safe enough to have the fan just attached to the wooden frame of the false ceiling. The new false ceiling using metal frame, you need to attach it to the concrete.

 

Yeah false ceiling.  I asked the contractor to reinforce the point as I will be putting the fan there.... Thought i saw them putting so. I just hope they did.... 

[Kb27]

This model of kdk ceiling fan has a white secondary safety (non-electrical) wire meant to be looped around the hook and attached to the motor unit.

 

From what I understand, it is a "safety net" in case the bolt and nut fails.

 

Chances of that happening is remote but then again... If it is there, might as well use it properly.

 

 

 

I see. A better safety cable would be a stainless steel one.

[Kusje]

I have this Panasonic fan with led lights installed in my bedroom. It doubles as my ceiling lights and the fan saves a lot of money for me since I seldom turn on the air con these days.

 

Bought it for 900 RM or so. SG selling the comparable kdk model for 800 SGD. Malaysia has the kdk model too but the pole is slightly longer. Both Panasonic and kdk are otherwise exactly the same (short for branding and Color)

Edited December 31, 2016 by Kusje

[Gnahp]

I diy-ed my living room KDK ceiling fan last year.

 

Your hook looks like the one I bought from KDK.

 

[Atrecord]

My 5yr old living room KDK ceiling fan starting to get noisy the last few weeks. Initially was quite sporadic but recently getting more consistant.

 

I tried varying the spead via my remote control.. Seem like the highest speed setting is the quietest but actual spin speedis pretty slow.

 

Tried tightening the screws and bolts holding the blades to the motor unit to no avail.

 

Anyone here with similar experience and what possibility could there be? Worthwhile to get a repairman to come troubleshoot or just change a brand new model?

 

I have 3 KDK ceiling fans at home. I larger one in living room, and 2 smaller ones in 2 bedrooms.

 

Last yr before CNY, when the fans were 4 yr old, one small one conked off. From 3 speed, becomes like only one same slow speed, super noisy. 

 

Called KDK, they sent a technician, who is a freelancer. He checked, said PCB spoilt, quoted i think about $80 for a new PCB, plus labour/transport of $30. LL asked him changed.

 

I asked him why KDK, which is supposed to be v reliable, so lousy, 4 yr spoilt, he said nowadays all things are like that. Then he asked me whether I've heard of a certain brand (which I can't remember now) that makes rice cookers. I had in fact heard of the brand before when younger. He sarcastically said that brand used to make solid rice cookers, never spoilt one... and so the company folded years ago 

 

When done and walking past the other room with the KDK fan, he asked me whether wanna check. I said that one got no noise, and speed also got 3 distinct speeds, but asked him check anyway. He took remote, pressed all buttons, and showed me the sleep mode is spoilt! I don't even use that mode!!! He told me same thing the PCB some part spoilt, so it was like that. Also said if change together, save the transport/labour component as only charged once... Also told me it's possible the old PCB might give more/different problems later. LL a second time, asked him changed also.

 

Finally, walking towards door, past my living room, he asked if wanna check that too. I was like heck lah, check lah. That one we didn't suspect anything. He took remote pressed... then wryly told me to test speed 4 and 5, asked me can i tell there's no difference!!! 

 

Told me all problems are cos PCB spoilt, so ended up also asked him to change, and the PCB is bigger and cost $10 more. 

 

oh, btw, he said (when I asked) that yonks ago all the schools KDK fans all no spoil, cos all is use the knob on the wall turn types. Those won't spoil. All these use remote, the PCB surely will spoil one day 

[Othello]

 

Got a question:

 

Please look at this pic:

 

 

Does the current ceiling hook look like it is universal?  With the newer KDK model in mind. 

 

yes it is. cheap cheap. $3 nia

I diy-ed my living room KDK ceiling fan last year.

 

Your hook looks like the one I bought from KDK.

 

 

 

 

how much kdk charge you?

Edited December 31, 2016 by Othello

[Gnahp]

$5 a piece if I remember it correctly

[mersaylee]

I have 3 KDK ceiling fans at home. I larger one in living room, and 2 smaller ones in 2 bedrooms.

 

Last yr before CNY, when the fans were 4 yr old, one small one conked off. From 3 speed, becomes like only one same slow speed, super noisy.

 

Called KDK, they sent a technician, who is a freelancer. He checked, said PCB spoilt, quoted i think about $80 for a new PCB, plus labour/transport of $30. LL asked him changed.

 

I asked him why KDK, which is supposed to be v reliable, so lousy, 4 yr spoilt, he said nowadays all things are like that. Then he asked me whether I've heard of a certain brand (which I can't remember now) that makes rice cookers. I had in fact heard of the brand before when younger. He sarcastically said that brand used to make solid rice cookers, never spoilt one... and so the company folded years ago

 

When done and walking past the other room with the KDK fan, he asked me whether wanna check. I said that one got no noise, and speed also got 3 distinct speeds, but asked him check anyway. He took remote, pressed all buttons, and showed me the sleep mode is spoilt! I don't even use that mode!!! He told me same thing the PCB some part spoilt, so it was like that. Also said if change together, save the transport/labour component as only charged once... Also told me it's possible the old PCB might give more/different problems later. LL a second time, asked him changed also.

 

Finally, walking towards door, past my living room, he asked if wanna check that too. I was like heck lah, check lah. That one we didn't suspect anything. He took remote pressed... then wryly told me to test speed 4 and 5, asked me can i tell there's no difference!!!

 

Told me all problems are cos PCB spoilt, so ended up also asked him to change, and the PCB is bigger and cost $10 more.

 

oh, btw, he said (when I asked) that yonks ago all the schools KDK fans all no spoil, cos all is use the knob on the wall turn types. Those won't spoil. All these use remote, the PCB surely will spoil one day

National brand under Panasonic umbrella which owns by Matsushita?

[Evillusion]

I have 3 KDK ceiling fans at home. I larger one in living room, and 2 smaller ones in 2 bedrooms.

 

Last yr before CNY, when the fans were 4 yr old, one small one conked off. From 3 speed, becomes like only one same slow speed, super noisy.

 

Called KDK, they sent a technician, who is a freelancer. He checked, said PCB spoilt, quoted i think about $80 for a new PCB, plus labour/transport of $30. LL asked him changed.

 

I asked him why KDK, which is supposed to be v reliable, so lousy, 4 yr spoilt, he said nowadays all things are like that. Then he asked me whether I've heard of a certain brand (which I can't remember now) that makes rice cookers. I had in fact heard of the brand before when younger. He sarcastically said that brand used to make solid rice cookers, never spoilt one... and so the company folded years ago

 

When done and walking past the other room with the KDK fan, he asked me whether wanna check. I said that one got no noise, and speed also got 3 distinct speeds, but asked him check anyway. He took remote, pressed all buttons, and showed me the sleep mode is spoilt! I don't even use that mode!!! He told me same thing the PCB some part spoilt, so it was like that. Also said if change together, save the transport/labour component as only charged once... Also told me it's possible the old PCB might give more/different problems later. LL a second time, asked him changed also.

 

Finally, walking towards door, past my living room, he asked if wanna check that too. I was like heck lah, check lah. That one we didn't suspect anything. He took remote pressed... then wryly told me to test speed 4 and 5, asked me can i tell there's no difference!!!

 

Told me all problems are cos PCB spoilt, so ended up also asked him to change, and the PCB is bigger and cost $10 more.

 

oh, btw, he said (when I asked) that yonks ago all the schools KDK fans all no spoil, cos all is use the knob on the wall turn types. Those won't spoil. All these use remote, the PCB surely will spoil one day

Now we know why its call a pcb....