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Nzy

Nzy

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I'm often curious and sometimes frustrated when I see cyclists riding thru' pedestrians crossings (aka "zebra-crossing") with no cares in this world [mad]

 

I recall having read that cyclists are not permitted to ride thru' pedestrian crossings and they MUST get down their bikes to push them? Or has the rule changed? From my observation, I often see vehicles having to stop/stop abruptly for cyclists to ride across the pedestrian crossings [confused]

 

The dilemma is this:

 

If you are driving and see a cyclist heading towards the pedestrian crossing and there isn't any pedestrian using the crossing at that moment. Are you going to slow down and stop for the cyclist to use the pedestrian crossing? Or will you simply drive through the crossing and not give way to the cyclist, seeing that the cyclist was slowing down to stop before the crossing?

 

Real incident:

 

Once, I saw a driver sounding his horn (softly) to caution an approaching cyclist towards a zebra-crossing. The driver was probably not intending to give way to the cyclist since it is a pedestrian crossing but he wanted the cyclist to be aware.

 

The next thing I saw, the cyclist didn't care, stared at the approaching driver and rode thru' the zebra-crossing. The driver had to jammed brake to allow the cyclist to ride thru'. The driver, simply frustrated, sounded his horn again at the cyclist. What happened next appalled me!

 

The cyclist stopped. Walked towards the driver, and attempted to open the car door to challenge a fight!! As I was few cars behind, I could only see the driver waving his hand wildly in the car and did not alight to face the confrontation. The cyclist then stood in front of the car and challenged the driver to bang him. The cars at the back were starting to horn and shortly later, the cyclist walked back to his bicycle. The driver drove off.

 

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

Still have to give way. According to the law, drivers have to give way to pedestrians. Only problem is that cyclists on footpaths are considered pedestrians. Whether they are cycling or pushing their bikes. Not giving way to them is as good as not giving way to pedestrians in the eyes of the law. Even when cycling on the road, for some reason TP still consider a cyclist as pedestrian.

 

I was knocked down while riding on the road before and a police car happened to pass by. Was told its compulsory to make police report as it is considered as an accident between a vehicle and a pedestrian even though I had already told them that I was cycling on the road and not trying to cross the road when I was knocked down. They told me in the eyes of the law this is still a case of a vehicle getting into an accident with a pedestrian.

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X5actor

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If I remember correctly, motor vehicles MUST give way to cyclists cycling on the roads. I think the law states that cyclists, too, share the roads. That is correct. That probably explains why cyclists are not allowed to ride on pedestrian walkways. But look at some cyclists - they cycle not only on public roads but also on pedestrian walkways and pedestrian crossings!

 

I'm not against cyclists but pro road safety.

 

 

 

 

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Lzmmcken

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If I remember correctly, motor vehicles MUST give way to cyclists cycling on the roads. I think the law states that cyclists, too, share the roads. That is correct. That probably explains why cyclists are not allowed to ride on pedestrian walkways. But look at some cyclists - they cycle not only on public roads but also on pedestrian walkways and pedestrian crossings!

 

I'm not against cyclists but pro road safety.

 

 

 

 

 

Cyclist are meant to cycle on roads. It is illegal to cycle on pedestrian walkways other than in cycling towns like Tampines.

 

There are also PCN paths that run along side pedestrian paths in certain estates allowing people to cycle. There are also traffic junctions that have dedicate cycling path that allow for cyclist to cycle across. But cyclist need to dismount and push the bike across all traffic junction if it is not a dedicated cycling junction (seldom see anyone do that though). I definitely would like to see more enforcement on errant cyclist as I am like you pro safety. I drive, used to ride a motorcycle (I still harbor hope to buy a motorcycle in the not too distant future) and cycle.

 

To your point, that motor vehicles MUST give way to cyclist cycling on the roads is incorrect. Bicycles being slower, like slower moving vehicle, is to keep left always unless attempting to turn right. Faster moving vehicle can/should overtake when it is safe on the right. In most case, so long as the overtaking vehicle overtakes with a gap of 1m or 1.5m, I am fine as I think it is safe enough.

 

It is going to require time but Singapore being a small city state is going to have to make alternative transport viable. We cannot continue to just expand the road infrastructure that is paid by multiple taxes and not road tax. In Japan, Australia and some European countries, almost every family owns a car but it is not uncommon for them to go to the City or CBD by public transport because parking charges are exorbitant due to lack of parking spaces.

 

it is also normal for people to commute to their local subway stations via bus, bicycle or walking before taking a train to city and continuing the rest of the journey to work or school by bus, bicycle or by foot. This happens rain or shine, during summer or winter.

 

We probably need a paradigm shift in our mentally as to how we behave and share road and walkways with all commuters regardless, car, motorbike, bicycle or pedestrian etc.

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Little_prince

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https://www.facebook.com/knn.sg/videos/775707779207889/

 

another idiot cyclist

 

 

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Xers007

Xers007

Supercharged

 

si ginna mm zai si

 

btw I also want to install a set of those emergency brakes leh. :ninja:

quote from stomp

"Stomper Leng had to hit his car's emergency brakes to avoid hitting a boy who was recklessly riding a kick-scooter on a road"

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Xers007

Xers007

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Problem is that they (e-bikers) seem to be getting bolder with the speed - (as it seems they are getting the cruising feeling) and the other type is the scooters type (which they use the footpaths usually and competing with pedestrians it seems); What happened to the good old fashioned roller skates :o

 

Really, with the speed these e bike can reach, i wonder the type of brakes and tires it uses can stop it efficiently a not. :lll._.:

 

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inlinesix

inlinesix

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Really, with the speed these e bike can reach, i wonder the type of brakes and tires it uses can stop it efficiently a not. :lll._.:

 

 

Law of physics.

 

The limits is on tyre just like car.

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Mercury1

Mercury1

Turbocharged

The brakes design will account for the momentum of the bike which is based on speed and weight, assuming it's those hi tech fancy bikes with disc brakes etc it should be able to stop the bike quite quick in emergencies.

 

The again cyclist just don't like slowing down in general, so even those brakes are for show nia :D

 

 

 

Really, with the speed these e bike can reach, i wonder the type of brakes and tires it uses can stop it efficiently a not. :lll._.:

 

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Nzy

Nzy

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Law of physics.

 

The limits is on tyre just like car.

 

Actually for these e-bikes, some are illegally modded and the brakes are not powerful enough. I saw a guy braking really hard but cannot stop in time. His brake levers look like they were depressed all the way already but the wheels still never lock up.

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inlinesix

inlinesix

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The brakes design will account for the momentum of the bike which is based on speed and weight, assuming it's those hi tech fancy bikes with disc brakes etc it should be able to stop the bike quite quick in emergencies.

 

The again cyclist just don't like slowing down in general, so even those brakes are for show nia :D

 

 

 

Bro, with disc brakes, no way bike gonna stop in time for emergencies due to limitation of tyre. Most of the e-bikes don't use good tyres.

 

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Mercury1

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Ah e bikes, sorry I was thinking about the cyclist in their speedos that rely purely on pedal power hahaha.

 

 

 

Bro, with disc brakes, no way bike gonna stop in time for emergencies due to limitation of tyre. Most of the e-bikes don't use good tyres.

 

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inlinesix

inlinesix

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Ah e bikes, sorry I was thinking about the cyclist in their speedos that rely purely on pedal power hahaha.

 

 

 

Same for pedal power. Law of physics. It could be situation where brake full lock up but bicycle still moving. That's why BMW motorcycle has ABS.

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Xers007

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The brakes design will account for the momentum of the bike which is based on speed and weight, assuming it's those hi tech fancy bikes with disc brakes etc it should be able to stop the bike quite quick in emergencies.

 

The again cyclist just don't like slowing down in general, so even those brakes are for show nia :D

 

 

 

Where got hi tech fancy bike, most are made in china and i have doubts on the parts that comes with it.

But very true nothing helps if they dont go slow :beaten:.

 

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Koko

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Actually for these e-bikes, some are illegally modded and the brakes are not powerful enough. I saw a guy braking really hard but cannot stop in time. His brake levers look like they were depressed all the way already but the wheels still never lock up.

 

Maybe they modded until have ABS in the braking system... so never lock up...

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Nzy

Nzy

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Muahahahah......this cyclist really deserve it!!!!!

 

The big dent (the 2nd car at the traffic light) on the bonnet, who to claim from?

 

Is it from the white car that crash onto the cyclist or claim from the cyclist?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftptsQq4mPE

 

 

White car. Cyclist going straight and the lights just turned amber. White car should be looking out for traffic going straight.

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