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  1. https://www.thedrive.com/news/42806/new-porsche-718-cayman-gt4-rs-laps-nurburgring-quicker-than-last-911-gt3 "New Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS Laps Nurburgring Quicker Than Last 911 GT3 The Cayman line is set to get a new halo model with devastating performance. The 718 Cayman GT4 is a highly competent vehicle, but as it turns out, the platform is capable of even more. Enter the Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS. In the development of this new beast, Porsche did what every good German automaker does, and took it to the Nürburgring. Results were impressive, as you see in the official lap video. With Porsche development driver Jörg Bergmeister behind the wheel, the GT4 RS laid down a 7:09.3 laptime around the 20.832-kilometer Nürburgring-Nordschleife circuit, while posting a 7:04.511 lap on the 20.6 km layout. The latter is a full 23.6 seconds quicker than the existing Cayman GT4, making it clear that the RS is no minor upgrade. The laptimes were set with a production model vehicle, though equipped with a racing seat for driver safety. A set of sticky Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tires were used, which are an available option for the car. Andreas Preuninger and Jörg Bergmeister celebrate after setting a rapid laptime in the Porsche Cayman GT4 RS. It's a rapid laptime for a car that isn't even top of the Porsche range. It compares well with the 6:43.3 second time set on the 20.8 km course by the 911 GT2. It should also let owners walk away from the Tesla Model S Plaid on a single lap, let alone during sustained running. Perhaps most notably, though, it bests the time set by the old 911 GT3, which lapped the course in 7:12.7 back in 2017. "During development, we gave the 718 Cayman GT4 RS everything that characterises a genuine RS: lightweight construction, more downforce, more power and, of course, an even higher level of responsiveness and feedback to driver inputs," said Andreas Preuninger, who holds the title of Director GT Model Line at Porsche. Preuninger also noted the value of testing at the Nürburgring, adding that "The fantastic lap time of the Nordschleife is impressive proof of how clearly noticeable these improvements in driving dynamics are." Porsche hasn't yet revealed the exact specifications of the GT4 RS. However, based on Preuninger's statements, expect more than the 414 horsepower and 317 lb-ft of torque of the GT4, and a curb weight a little less than 3295 lbs. Speculation in the car world is rife, with expectations the GT4 RS could boast up to 500 horsepower. These figures are backed up by little hard information, however, so should be taken with a grain of salt. Meanwhile, the obvious aero mods on the GT4 RS should help with sticking the car to the track in high-speed cornering. Bergmeister refers to the car as an "uncompromising driving machine," noting that "it feels as nimble as a go-kart on mountain roads, yet is impressively stable and well-balanced on the racetrack." We'd certainly love to take a go-kart out on the Tail of the Dragon, but it likely wouldn't be anywhere as near quick as the GT4 RS. Bergmeister's opinion carries some weight, but not only due to his fast laptimes. As a development driver, he spent over 500 hours behind the wheel during the car's development. The GT4 RS will be fully revealed at its world premier in November, but for now, marvel at the hot tour of Germany's most famous racing circuit. The first Cayman to bear the RS moniker seems like it will live up to the badge."
  2. Dedicated F1 fans here might know there's a Netflix series based on it called "Drive to Survive". I haven't watched a full episode of it — since the current 2021 season rivalry between Verstappen and Hamilton is more than enough drama for me — but I'm aware of its great production quality. If you're into that kind of stuff, I highly recommend this free series on Porsche's official YouTube channel called "Michael Fassbender: Road to Le Mans": It's based on Pro-Am driver Michael Fassbender's journey through the European Le Mans Series (ELMS), in his quest to eventually compete at the 24 Hours of Le Mans in the World Endurance Championship (WEC). If you find his name familiar, that's probably because he has starred in the movies you've watched, most notably as Magneto in the X-Men series: Maybe he can make use of his mental powers to force opponents off the track to secure his wins? The 3rd season just started this month, and each episode averages about 20 minutes. The 1st season had 6 episodes and the 2nd season expanded it to 9, but you can easily binge the whole thing over a weekend, which I highly recommend if you want to understand the full context behind his struggles. To watch them all, just click on the red bolded text within this paragraph for each respective season's playlist. As mentioned, this whole series is entirely FREE, so don't say I never jio you all when I got lobang ah! In the meantime, enjoy the first episode of this latest season:
  3. Coupé or Cabriolet? Targa: The Best of Both Worlds Porsche completes its sports car trio in time for summer: following on from the Coupé and Cabriolet, the third body variant of the new 911 generation now makes its debut with the all-wheel drive Porsche 911 Targa 4 and 911 Targa 4S models. The distinguishing feature of the Targa remains its innovative, fully automatic roof system and, just like the legendary original Targa model from 1965, it features a characteristic wide roll hoop, a movable roof section above the front seats and a wraparound rear window. The roof can be comfortably opened and closed in just 19 seconds. It is powered by a six-cylinder, three-litre boxer engine with twin turbochargers: the Porsche 911 Targa 4 now delivers 283 kW (385 PS) and, in combination with the optional Sport Chrono package, accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in just 4.2 seconds - one tenth faster than before. The engine in the 911 Targa 4S boasts 331 kW (450 PS) and reaches the 100 km/h mark in just 3.6 seconds under the same conditions - four tenths faster than its predecessor. Top speed of the 911 Targa 4 is 289 km/h (up two km/h), while the 4S peaks at 304 km/h (up three km/h). Both sports cars are fitted with eight-speed dual-clutch transmission (PDK) and intelligent all-wheel drive Porsche Traction Management (PTM) as standard to deliver maximum driving pleasure. Alternatively, the 911 Targa 4S can be ordered with the newly developed seven-speed manual gearbox, with which the Sport Chrono package is included. New technology has also been integrated to extend the range of features for both 911 models and, for the first time, Porsche InnoDrive, which includes adaptive cruise control, is available. Thanks to the enhanced Smartlift function, ground clearance can be programmed so that it is raised for everyday use. The list of options is supplemented by an extensive range from Porsche Tequipment and new personalisation options from Porsche Exclusive Manufaktur. Porsche will further extend the combination of traditional style elements, timeless design and cutting-edge technology in a special edition of the 911 Targa, which will make its debut in June. Efficient biturbo boxer engine Like the 911 Carrera models, both Porsche 911 Targa variants profit from the increase in power provided by the turbocharged three-litre six-cylinder boxer engines. Both performance and everyday usability benefit as a result. The engine in the 911 Targa 4 produces 283 kW (385 PS) at 6,500 rpm, which is 11 kW (15 PS) more than its predecessor. Maximum torque of 450 newton metres is delivered across a wide engine speed range of between 1,950 and 5,000 rpm. With 331 kW (450 PS), the 911 Targa 4S delivers 22 kW (30 PS) more output than its predecessor and generates maximum torque of 530 Nm (up 30 Nm) between 2,300 and 5,000 rpm. Optimised all-wheel drive for better traction The enhanced performance of the new all-wheel drive models goes hand-in-hand with further development of the front-axle drive. The clutch and differential unit is water-cooled and has reinforced clutch discs for greater robustness and a higher load capacity. The increased actuating torque at the clutch improves its adjustment accuracy and the function of the additional front-axle drive. Overall, the enhanced front-axle drive with PTM (Porsche Traction Management) contributes to even better traction in all road conditions. Further developed chassis for more comfort and safety The electronically controlled variable damping system PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) is part of the standard equipment on the new 911 Targa models. This system automatically adjusts the damping characteristics in terms of driving comfort and handling to each driving situation and has two manually adjustable maps, Normal and Sport. Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus), which includes an electronic rear differential lock with fully variable torque distribution, is added as standard equipment for the Targa 4S and is available as an option on the Targa 4. Like the other eighth generation Porsche 911 variants, the Targa models are also equipped with Porsche Wet mode as standard. Sensors fitted in the front wheel housings are capable of detecting water on the road surface and, if significant volumes of water are picked up, a signal in the cockpit provides a recommendation for the driver to manually switch to Wet mode. The drive responsiveness is then adapted to the conditions to guarantee maximum driving stability. The driving dynamics setup for the 911 Targa 4 includes 235/40 ZR tyres on 19-inch alloy wheels on the front axle and 295/35 ZR tyres on 20-inch wheels on the rear axle. As standard, the 4S model is fitted with 245/35 ZR tyres on its 20-inch front wheels and 305/30 ZR tyres on its 21-inch rears. On the Targa 4, deceleration is taken care of on both axles by 330-millimetre brake discs with black four-piston monobloc fixed callipers. The red-painted brake callipers on the Targa 4S have six pistons at the front axle, four at the rear while its discs measure 350 mm front and rear. The Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) can be ordered as an option. Extravagant Targa design with a modern interpretation The exterior of the Porsche 911 Targa is characterised by the design elements of its 992 model generation. Compared to its predecessors, its body features significantly more pronounced wheel housings at the front and, between its LED headlights, its bonnet has a distinctive recess evoking the design of the first 911 generations. Its rear is dominated by its wider, variably extending rear spoiler and seamlessly integrated, elegant light bar. With the exception of the front and rear sections, the entire outer skin is made from aluminium. The interior echoes the 911 Carrera models and is characterised by the clear and straight lines of its dashboard and its recessed instruments. The 911 models from the 1970s provided the inspiration here. Alongside the central rev counter - very much a defining feature for Porsche - two thin, frameless freeform displays extend the information provided to the driver. A compact switch unit with five buttons for direct access to important vehicle functions is located below the 10.9-inch centre screen of the Porsche Communication Management (PCM). The standard PCM features include online navigation based on swarm data as well as Connect Plus with Apple Car Play. The model for a new class of sports cars since 1965 The 1965 911 Targa 2.0 was a trailblazer for a whole new type of car. Originally marketed as a "safety cabriolet with anti-roll bar", the Targa, with its detachable roof, soon established itself as an independent concept and indeed became a style icon. Right through to the present day, Porsche has continued to combine two worlds in the 911 Targa: the advantages of open-top driving in a cabriolet combined with the everyday comfort and safety of a coupé. Prices The new Porsche 911 Targa models will be launched on the market from August 2020. Prices (including 19 percent VAT and country-specific equipment) start from 128,486 euros for the 911 Targa 4 and from 143,956 euros for the 911 Targa 4S.
  4. The new Porsche 911 has arrived and British YouTube channel, Carwow has managed to gather the new 992 and its rivals together for a drag race. As per most of its races that it does, the cars will go through a quarter mile race, followed by a rolling race and a braking test from 112km/h. With a zero to hundred sprint time of 3.4 seconds for the new Porsche, the near entry-level 911 Carrera 4S is no slouch. Despite having only 443bhp vs its much more powerful rivals like the 611bhp Audi R8 Performance, the race is closer than you think. Watch how well the Porsche did in the video below!
  5. SZ_ford

    Is 911 turbo S a supercar?

    Hi All, had a friendly debate with a fellow petrol head. I was for turbo S being a super car. He was against . My argument was turbo S has 580hp and is probably the fastest accelerating car, minus the tesla. His argument was turbo S doesn't evoke the emotions like a lambo or ferrari. So my question is what make a car a supercar? Price, history, horespower, looks? what about aston, mclaren and bentley?
  6. Porsche offered its 911 GT3 RS without a manual gearbox due cost and marketing reasons but it didn't stop a owner from converting his car from the standard fit dual-clutch gearbox to a manual gearbox. As seen from the Rennlist forum via Carscoops, a Porsche purist and collector recently decided to take matters into his own hands and fitted a six-speed manual from the 911R to his GT3 RS. With nearly 1,500km on his car, he enlisted the help from BGB Motorsports and for the next seven to eight months, everything was planned and ready for the transplant. Together, they bought a 911R transmission from Suncoast Porsche Parts after it was added to the Porsche parts catalog. It cost around S$30k and was successful slotted in the RS a few weeks ago. While the car might not be as fast around the track as the factory model, we are sure the owner will have more fun driving his car hard.
  7. We all know Porsche's new 991 GT3 is a pretty fast car considering that it has 475bhp and can do more than 300km/h if the roads allow so. So, this guy in his Nissan comes up to GT3 and tries to out drag it with his 350Z. Of course the 350Z has to be tuned in order to even stand a chance. According to the video, it is equipped with a supercharger that would increases output to at least 420bhp. Then, all of a sudden, something else comes up from behind and surprises them at an estimated 240km/h. Watch the video and find out what happens... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dq2lh51G_c
  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAId3vqwqvc The Nissan GTR is commonly known as the 'King of drag race' with its potent off-the-line performance. Credits to its clever all-wheel drive system, the GTR can effectively put down its 545bhp and 630Nm of torque on the drag strip. Recently, however, British publication EVO took out the GTR and pit it against Porsche's new 911 Turbo - and found otherwise. In comparison, the 991 gen Turbo has 520 horses - 25 fewer than the GTR. But it weighs 1,665kg - compared to the GTR's 1,746kg. That could have given it a slight advantage.
  9. Ake109

    911 Slantnose

    Damn, this is rare. Esp if it really isn't a bodykit. http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=436557&DL=1000 Sorely tempting.
  10. There's a unique new way for Porsche owners, male and female, to give their car its own special identity. Where the model type normally goes, you can now opt to have the wording of your choice in the same style of lettering. Normally, instead of the model names such as Cayenne, Turbo, Carrera, Cayman or Boxster, the name of any owner, his or her girlfriend or boyfriend, dog, company or anything at all can be put on the car: from Bruce to Michelle, from David to Roxanne to Jade and so on. Furthermore, creative thinking can lead to all sorts of amusing phrases, with endless possibilities. Phrases like: 'My Seventh' or 'Thanks Daddy' 'Not Leased' and 'Follow Me' are just some examples. With its own unique wording, a Porsche becomes just a little more exclusive and that's what this unique new service is all about. The lettering can also be ordered in different colors - black, silver, and even gold - at www.nameyourporsche.com, where you'll also find a range of examples and full information about quality, price, and delivery all over the world.
  11. http://dai.ly/x151mnc Motorsports crash scenes are one of the most popular. While we are no sadists, these scenes usually add that bit of extra spice and drama to the sports. But of course, some are more spectacular than others. Let's start by saying even by rally crash standard, this is terrifying. All we can tell is that the driver locked up his brakes, failed to negotiate a turn, went straight into the barrier - and the rest is history. Fortunately, both the driver and co-driver are unhurt from the accident.
  12. Nic_low

    How long is needed to create an icon?

    How long is needed before an icon can be created? Many of us don't hold the answer - but Porsche does. Half a century of the 911 has seen it become one of the benchmarks - not just in its segment, but in the automotive industry. 50 years and seven generations - few models can claim a life as long-lived as the 911. That said, the 911's recipe has raised brows since its inception. Its engine is at the wrong end of the car. The looks? Many argue that it has hardly changed at all. But for Porschephiles - it is the timeless looks that, perhaps, hold the greatest appeal of all. It all started in 1963, when Ferdinand Alexander Porsche 'Butzi' penned the 911 to take over the 356. The second generation came in 1973 - almost a decade after the first 911's debut. It is also this generation that spawned the famous 'Turbo' variant, which was launched in 1976 - amidst an oil crisis. But that did not stop the 911 Turbo to become one of the greatest sportscar of its time. Codenamed '964', the third generation was massively revamped, carrying only 20 percent of its parts from its predecessor. The 'modern' 911 also incorporated new technologies, such as ABS, airbags, as well as Porsche's 'Tiptronic' automatic transmission and Carrera 4's all-wheel drive system. The fourth generation (codenamed '993') took the centre stage in 1993. As the last generation to sport an air-cooled flat-six engine, its status in history is firmly sealed. And it remains to be one of the favourites among fans of the marque. The fifth generation (codenamed '996') is very different from its forebears. It was bigger and has a sleeker profile, and more importantly the engine at its rump now employs water-cooling technologies. It was regarded by many as a departure from the previous 911s. The sixth generation (dubbed '997') saw the creation of a number of new variants, such as the 911 Speedster, 911 Sports Classic, and GT2 RS - the most hardcore road-going 911 thus far. The current generation reinvents the icon with a slew of new technologies. For instance, the GT3 ditched the old 'Metzger' block for a brand new engine. The track weapon also comes exclusively with PDK (Porsche's iteration of the dual-clutch gearbox) - no more manual transmission. This year marks the 50th Anniversary of the 911. And as expected, there are celebrations being held at various places around the world. But nothing comes close to that at Silverstone. At an event organised jointly by Porsche Cars GB (a Porsche-only car club in U.K.) and Silverstone Classic, a total of 1,208 911s gathered at the circuit. The scale of the event was never preceded, and sets a new world record. It is amazing how the 911 has progressed through the years. At the same time, we too wonder how long the 'evergreen' design is here to stay, and if it does, how will it look ten, twenty years down the road. Only time will tell.
  13. The Porsche 911 will be celebrating its 50th anniversary this year and Porsche kicks-off the celebrations with the introduction of the new 911 GT3. Back in 1999, the 911 GT3 became the fastest ever production car to lap the legendary Nurburgring-Nordschleife circuit and hence after set the benchmark for road legal sports cars. Over the last four generations a total of 14,145 GT3 cars have since been built and now there is another based on the 991 series - Porsche 911. The fifth generation 911 GT3 debuts at the ongoing Geneva Motor Show and aims to set the benchmark among thoroughbred Porsche sports cars with naturally aspirated engines. The engine, transmission, body and chassis are entirely new but the proven characteristics of the track inspired sports car are preserved. The powertrain of the new 911 GT3 comprises a 3.8-litre flat engine developing 475bhp mated to a Porsche PDK double-clutch gearbox, and rear-wheel drive. Though the six-cylinder engine is akin to the 911 Carrera S they only share a few common parts and weigh around 25 kg less than the previous unit. The new 911 GT3 comes with a sports exhaust system, which is revised from the previous model. The 991 based 911 GT3 is 44 mm wider than a Carrera S across the rear axle and houses the distinctive large, fixed rear wing. The 911 GT3 hit 100km/h in just 3.5 seconds while the top speed is attainable with 313km/h via the seventh gear. The 911 GT3 lapped the green hell in less than 7:30.
  14. FaezClutchless

    Luxury cars belonging to Uday Hussein

    [extract] Dictators; some love them and some really loathe them. Dictators are all about sacrificing for the greater good of the people when their country
  15. [extract] One of the most important people in the automotive industry has left us. Ferdinand Alexander Porsche has passed away on Thursday, 05 April 2012, at age 76 in Salzburg, Austria. The cause of death was not revealed. Alexander Porsche is the grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, the man who was responsible in founding the famous sports car marque. Ferdinand Alexander Porsche is the son of Ferdinand Anton Ernst Porsche (commonly known as Ferry Porsche) and was nicknamed
  16. FaezClutchless

    The demise of the manual transmission for the 911

    [extract] With the recent release of the latest generation 911 (991 series), Porsche has introduced a world
  17. FaezClutchless

    Will triple turbo engines be the future?

    [extract] The turbocharging of engines in modern cars today is getting pretty common. You can see all sorts of forced induction set-ups, from a small-sized single turbo and up to a twin-turbo set-up. But a triple turbo set-up is something new and two German automakers are venturing into that foray. The rumours of BMW
  18. [extract] The ultimate Porsche 911 around is the GT3 RSR race car that Porsche and customers run in GT races throughout the world. This non-road legal version of the venerable 911 is the ultimate interpretation of the timeless 911 and for 2011, Porsche has come out with the latest round of upgrades to the 997 based GT3 RSR. First previewed at the recent
  19. SYF77

    991 evolving into new 911

    What you see here are the latest spy shots of the upcoming 2012 Porsche 911, codenamed 991. The newcomer looks similar to the current model, but it is a completely new model. The 991 model is a little longer and wider than the car it replaces, giving a little extra space in the 911
  20. Porsche has unveiled a swan song of sorts for the current 911 Carrera, the 911 Carrera GTS. This current crop of 911s, the 997.2 (the '2' being the second revision of this chassis) is scheduled to be replaced by a new 911 sometime in 2011 and in line with this, they've decided to release a higher performance version of their venerable 911 Carrera which is the entry level line for the 911s. The car you see here is scheduled for its live debut at the Paris Motor Show shortly. This new Carrera range will be the base Carrera, the Carrera S and now the Carrera GTS. One rung higher up will be the 911 GT3. This model could be for those yearning for a more powerful Carrera S but not willing to suffer from a lack of refinement that would happen when buying a GT3. Actually, this could be just a way to milk customers a little as the 997.2 GT3 and its GT3 RS sibling aren't as ridiculously unbearable according to road testers. What you would gain from the Carrera GTS is more power, a 44mm wider body at the rear from the Carrera 4 (and the GT3 RS) and more goodies, when it comes to specification. The car now hits 306km/h, up 4km/h from the Carrera S and now accelerates to 100km/h from nought 0.1 seconds faster in PDK (dual clutch gearbox) together with Sports Chrono Plus package if the car is set in Sport Plus mode. Fuel consumption is still very livable, making 10.2ltr/100km and CO2 emissions are 240g/km. Good figures for a sports car. The power gets a nice bump in order to achieve the above figures. The Carrera GTS makes 402bhp. The previous top Carrera S makes 380bhp and the GT3 makes 429bhp. This makes the Carrera GTS fall somewhat right smack in the middle of both when it comes to being a bridge between the two latter models mentioned above. Torque however remains the same as the Carrera S but the reworked 3.8 flat-6 engine ,which has a new variable intake manifold with 6 vacuum controlled flaps, allows for the maximum torque figure to come in at 4,200rpm instead of 4,400rpm. There is also a sports exhaust system added with the tail pipes painted in black and polished mid-piping for those who want to gawk when looking under the car. The Carrera GTS will have a Porsche SportDesign front bumper with lip spoiler section painted black. There is black GTS specific side skirts and the usual Porsche self advertising Carrera GTS graphics (which aren't as 'in your face' as those on a GT3) on the doors and the rear cover . The car sits on 19inch RS Spyder wheels all round which has special centre hub mounted wheels (like the GT3 RS instead of using individual wheel nuts). The interior gets black alcantara suede material as standard and used specifically used in places where the driver is in contact with the car, namely the steering wheel (a new three spoke SportDesign wheel), the handbrake lever and the gear knob. The Carrera GTS will start selling in Germany by December this year and later to other major markets. It will cost 104,935Euro for the coupe and 115,050Euro for the cabriolet version of this car over there. Something good for those who do not want to go totally extreme or a slightly faster Carrera S and nothing more.
  21. SYF77

    911 Turbo S set for Geneva debut

    Porsche will be introducing a more potent version of the 911 in the form of the Turbo S at the Geneva auto show in March 2010. The 911 Turbo S is injected with 30bhp over the standard 911 Turbo, bringing the horsepower up to 530bhp while torque stays put at 700Nm (516 lb-ft) including the overboost, 650Nm (479 lb-ft) without. Top speed is up just slightly by 3km/h at 315km/h. Fuel consumption remains the same as the standard Turbo at 11.4 liters/100 km, which is quite commendable for such performance. All the options available on the 911 Turbo will be standard on the Turbo S. The 911 Turbo S will be equipped with Porsche's 7-speed PDK (double-clutch) transmission, Porsche traction management (PTM) for the all-wheel drive system, as well as Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), which includes a differential lock for the rear axle. Also part of the standard package is the Launch Control and Sport Chrono Package that help accelerate this 911 Turbo S from 0 to 100 km/h in 3.3 seconds. Other standard features include 19-inch wheels in an RS Spyder design and a two-tone leather finish in either Black/Crema or Black/Titanium Blue combination. The Turbo S will be available in both cabriolet and coupe body-styles, and is set to reach dealerships in Europe starting May 2010. Perhaps, we may see a local launch in Singapore before 2010 is out. Stay tuned!
  22. Porsche. This company is somehow criticized on the design of their cars of late. The reason for this is that their cars look almost the same. You can clearly see the DNA of the 911 in the Cayenne, Boxster, Cayman and the Panamera. Like the 911 gave birth to all of them from its tailpipes. Or like most critics state, lazy designers using the same template for all Porsches until they all look the same. They have the same rounded rear and nearly the same silhouette from the side. Of course you can tell that the Cayenne is an SUV or that the Panamera is a 4 door sedan, but they basically have the same shape. But is it really true that Porsche have lazy designers? Now, after some thought over a cup of home brewed Darjeeling tea I have come up with an answer. You see, Porsche in the 1970s did rock the 911 establishment by coming up with supposed replacement models for the lower end and upper end of the markets. Cars like the 924, 944, 968 and the 928 were brought out from the mid 1970s to the mid 1990s with some success but none could ever usurp the sales of the 911. No matter how good journalists at that point of time said of the 968 or the 928 would change the minds of Porsche 911 loving people who continued buying 911s regardless of the fact that its rear engined design meant that it was tail happy and loved putting itself through hedges and ditches backwards due to its inherent design characteristics (or flaws). This same people actually liked the shape of the 911 as they would have also tried the 928 in the showrooms at that point of time but still bought the flawed car. Somehow, people liked the slightly bulbous shape of the 911 and the sound of the water-cooled flat 6 engine so much so that they refused to change their minds and purchase what even Porsche thought was the better car at the time. Of course, this meant that the 928 and the 968 (which was the final version of the 924/944 series) had to be discontinued. Porsche then launched the Boxster, which was mid engined but looked so much like its big brother and was a sales success. It wasn't as though Porsche didn't try the 'budget Porsche' way as they had done so with the 924 in the 1970s but Porsche fans took to it like a duck to water and it became Porsche's success story. Porsche's car lineup then included the extremely successful Cayenne SUV, which is actually weird looking in some angles but somehow managed to capture the hearts and souls of people who were never even fans of the 911 in the first place. This success story has since continued till today with the Panamera. Some critics say this cars look ugly, or lazily designed but you will notice that the Porsche 911 design is timeless and a design classic. Its design clues are so recognizable that even a person who does not like cars will recognise a Porsche when they see one. You see, Porsche has basically done a Rolex Sports watch. Take for example the Rolex Submariner (photo above). It has remained basically the same since the 1950s, throughout the 1960s, through Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton as James Bond's watch choice and it still is a highly respected diver's watch with the trademark Oyster case to this day. Every few years Rolex will spruce it up a little by rounding off an edge or two or make it slightly chunkier but it still looks the same and is still easily recognizable. Porsche too had decided to evolve slowly and not change anything drastically but just rearrange the design of the car a little year after year. The engine is still in the wrong place after all of these years but the suspension has been improved until the 911 can bend the laws of physics and corner like its on rails, or if it does break away the tail is more progressive and won't kill its owner. It is the same with the Cayenne and Boxster. Both of which are already in its 2nd generation form, and both looks like nothing had actually changed. Rolex, whether or not watch savants loathe the brand is one of the biggest brand names in the world and this fact cannot be denied. So Porsche is the sports car version of Rolex. In not so many words of course. - Sea Dweller DeepSea - Basically a Submariner on steroids and with the new super Oyster case. But at a glance it is still recognizable as a derivative of the Rolex Submariner. The Porsche silhouette is already considered a classic automotive design and it is the same with the Rolex Submariner. Most of humanity (or if you don't agree, both Porsche and Rolex owners/buyers only) have decided that both designs have reached a pinnacle that cannot be altered but merely refined bit by bit in accordance with the taste of the period. And it is this fact I hereby state that while a Porsche will always look good or will never look good, or that it has lazy designers, depending on your point of view; it will keep on selling Porsches looking like what they do as people love them in that shape and they may never buy a Porsche if it looked like a Lamborghini or a Ferrari. Remember, Porsche tried, and failed. So if it ain't broke, why fix or change it? Now Let me give you another example. The BMW Mini. You cannot really tell the difference between the 1st generation and the 2nd generation when it comes to its looks. You can't really change the look of a Mini as that is what customers look for. 80% Cabin , 20% engine, large wrapround glass area and a roof that looks separated from the body. That's a Mini and that's how a 2 door, Traveller/Clubman and how the future 4 door versions will look. Its the same design on different models. And BMW Mini designers are also lazy I presume? - An ancient Porsche 911 - A Boxster 1st Generation - A 2nd Generation Boxster. You'd have to really know your Porsches if you can tell this one from the 1st Gen version if you only took a glance at it. - Mini Clubman, it still looks like a Mini even though its longer